#GuildChat for 07/03/15: Celebrating Our Learning Independence

Our next #GuildChat takes place Friday, July 3rd at 11am PT / 2pm ET. This week we’ll look to Celebrate our Learning Independence!

Here in the United States we are approaching our Independence Day, The 4th of July.  This date marked 2015-01-09_11-14-16the beginning of a fight for independence not the completion of it. Similarly, in Learning, we are seeing more and more of it moving outside the confines of the traditional department, classroom and course model. Learning is happening everywhere and the freedom to choose what, where, and when to learn is growing and challenging traditional structures of power and authority.

This week we look at the revolution underway for individuals, organizations and learning professionals and what growing independence means for each; the opportunities and the challenges.

Prospective questions:

Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat

Q2. How has independence manifested itself in your personal learning? #GuildChat

Q3. In what ways have organizations tried to maintain control? #GuildChat

Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildChat

Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat

Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat

Q7. How can we help others become more independent learners?

Chat Transcript

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2:00 PM eLearningGuild Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing Our Learning Independence today. #elGuild
2:01 PM eLearningGuild Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the hashtag in your tweets.
2:01 PM Plock2009 RT @eLearningGuild: #GuildChat starts in just 5 MINUTES. Join us for a chat on Learning Independence. #elguild
2:01 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing Our Learning Independence tod…
2:01 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the has…
2:02 PM eLearningGuild Please take a moment to introduce yourself and share your work and interests. The 1st question will be posted in just 2 minutes. #GuildChat
2:02 PM Plock2009 RT @eLearningGuild: Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the has…
2:03 PM ChadSLowry Qintro) Chad Lowry, Customer Education Manager. Spending my Independence Day off from work cleaning the house & doing laundry. #guildchat
2:03 PM JD_Dillon JD in Orlando, FL – popping in and out of today’s #GuildChat – howdy!  https://t.co/2U2uc06VFr
2:03 PM learningsnacks Hi everyone! I’m Rita, Instructional Designer & Change Manager. From Lisbon, Portugal. #GuildChat
2:03 PM LnDDave Greetings #GuildChat. David from @eLearningGuild looking forward to today’s chat.
2:04 PM ChadSLowry @learningsnacks Hi Rita, welcome! #guildchat
2:04 PM eLearningGuild Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat
2:04 PM Plock2009 #GuildChat – plock2009 director of a ‘training team’ DCMArea.
2:04 PM flipchartguy Brian from Seattle. Developing learning stuff to help eliminate blindness. Waiting in line to catch a ferry. #guildchat
2:05 PM Plock2009 RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat
2:05 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat
2:05 PM ChadSLowry Q1) I seek any & all freedoms as learner, so long as I don’t infringe on others’ freedoms. Let me learn when, where, how I want. #guildchat
2:05 PM flipchartguy Confession: I also have an eye on http://t.co/7IfZvNt08v to see if Serena will come all the way back. #guildchat
2:06 PM JD_Dillon A1) Time and space – engage with the content I want when/where I want it #GuildChat  https://t.co/gu8K2vcFO7
2:06 PM LnDDave A1) the freedoms provided by optimized search, #GuildChat
2:07 PM Plock2009 Q1. Freedom to get answers customized to my line of inquiry  #GuildChat
2:07 PM flipchartguy A1) Freedom from oppressive training regimes (aka: freedom from lecture or click thru training – depending on ILT or elrng) #guildchat
2:07 PM LnDDave A1) the freedom of letting me find the solution to a problem on my own. #GuildChat
2:07 PM ChadSLowry Q1) Give me time and space to learn, or give me death of my professional development. #guildchat
2:07 PM Plock2009 RT @LnDDave: A1) the freedoms provided by optimized search, #GuildChat
2:08 PM learningsnacks A1. Be able to learn when I need it the most. #GuildChat
2:08 PM JD_Dillon A1) Freedom to connect with people I trust- not necessarily designated trainers or SMEs #GuildChat
2:08 PM LnDDave A1) the freedom of time. Often the importance of personal learning is lost to the urgency of our growing to-do lists. #GuildChat
2:08 PM JD_Dillon RT @LnDDave: A1) the freedom of letting me find the solution to a problem on my own. #GuildChat
2:08 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to connect with people I trust- not necessarily designated trainers or SMEs #GuildChat
2:09 PM learningsnacks A1. Have the time to learn and reflect on that same learning. #GuildChat
2:09 PM ChadSLowry RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to connect with people I trust- not necessarily designated trainers or SMEs #GuildChat
2:09 PM JD_Dillon A1) Freedom to choose the path I believe will help me reach my desired outcome #GuildChat
2:10 PM flipchartguy A1) Freedom to try out and play with ideas I may have recently learned #guildchat
2:10 PM Plock2009 Q1. Freedom to choose the “paperclip” or the “professor” help agent in ms office circa 2002. Kidding #GuildChat
2:10 PM LnDDave @learningsnacks yes, the freedom to reflect. To often we lose that because the formal learning event is “over”. #GuildChat
2:10 PM JD_Dillon A1) Freedom to fail and try again #GuildChat
2:11 PM ChadSLowry RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to fail and try again #GuildChat
2:11 PM eLearningGuild Q2. How has independence manifested itself in your personal learning? #GuildChat
2:11 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to fail and try again #GuildChat
2:11 PM McGough3R A1: The freedom to try & F.A.I.L.  #GuildChat #minitech
2:11 PM JD_Dillon A1) Freedom to ask “why” #GuildChat
2:11 PM DonaldClark Freedom from linearity – page turning, linear courses, linear series of modules. My mind is not a tape recorder #guildchat
2:12 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. How has independence manifested itself in your personal learning? #GuildChat
2:12 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Please take a moment to introduce yourself and share your work and interests. The 1st question will be posted in just 2…
2:12 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat
2:12 PM ChadSLowry Q2) I’ve always taken the initiative to do what I felt I needed for my own development. I try to enable the same for others. #guildchat
2:12 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to ask “why” #GuildChat
2:12 PM urbie #guildchat urbie, education engineer..
2:12 PM helminatto @eLearningGuild #GuildChat
The freedom to learn one skill in multiple ways.
2:12 PM JD_Dillon A2) Taking control of my professional development – outside the workplace #GuildChat  https://t.co/uFREx7x48g
2:13 PM LearnovateSA RT @eLearningGuild: Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing Our Learning Independence tod…
2:13 PM flipchartguy A2) I’ve been fortunate to have some awesome bosses/direct reports willing to allow me to play with newly learned ideas (1/2) #guildchat
2:13 PM McGough3R A2: the ability to learn at #GuildChat while in the Jeep on my way to a lake to swim! Love being connected! #minitech
2:13 PM Plock2009 That whole “wizard” thing… Great example of unintended consequences  #GuildChat
2:14 PM learningsnacks A2. Bigger improvement on my performance, and guiding my career where I want it to be #GuildChat
2:14 PM learningsnacks A2. Bigger improvement on my performance, and guiding my career where I want it to be #GuildChat
2:14 PM LnDDave A2) my iPhone may as well be called my learning independence tool. #GuildChat
2:14 PM flipchartguy A2) (2/2) The right boss is pretty key to allowing independent learning to manifest itself! #guildchat
2:14 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Taking control of my professional development – outside the workplace #GuildChat  https://t.co/uFREx7x48g
2:14 PM urbie #guildchat A1 Expected freedoms as a learner? Dunno. Haven’t given it much thought. Learn n go as I please. Best not waiting on others.
2:14 PM DonaldClark A2 haven’t been on a ‘course’ for over 20 years & dont give a hoot for paper quals #guildchat
2:15 PM McGough3R RT @LnDDave: A2) my iPhone may as well be called my learning independence tool. #GuildChat
2:15 PM ChadSLowry Q2) My company offers an educational stipend each year to every employee to spend as they like on their professional development. #guildchat
2:15 PM JD_Dillon A2) Sharing my ideas and experiences via blogs and presentations (again outside the workplace) #guildchat
2:15 PM McGough3R RT @urbie: #guildchat A1 Expected freedoms as a learner? Dunno. Haven’t given it much thought. Learn n go as I please. Best not waiting on …
2:16 PM learningsnacks A2. Being able to learn without spending gazilions. #GuildChat
2:16 PM urbie #guildchat A1 I suppose that’s where #EdCamp comes in. They’re free.
2:16 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. How has independence manifested itself in your personal learning? #GuildChat
2:16 PM LnDDave A2) Every time I see something, think “I wonder how they did that?”, and then go find out. #GuildChat
2:16 PM Plock2009 A2) YouTube learning…ability to see myriad examples and non examples of the current home repair challenge  #GuildChat
2:17 PM DonaldClark A2 #guildchat Learnt to ignore fads – mindfulness, happiness, creativity, 21st C skills, NLP….
2:17 PM LnDDave RT @Plock2009: A2) YouTube learning…ability to see myriad examples and non examples of the current home repair challenge  #GuildChat
2:17 PM JD_Dillon A2) Recognizing the value of exploration and experience as opposed to reliance on formal education #guildchat
2:17 PM urbie #guildchat A2 That’s a dangerous question. Janis Joplin’s https://t.co/PUXZ76CrHx.. I got to where I had to do something. Org wasn’t.
2:18 PM Plock2009 RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Recognizing the value of exploration and experience as opposed to reliance on formal education #guildchat
2:18 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Recognizing the value of exploration and experience as opposed to reliance on formal education #guildchat
2:18 PM eLearningGuild Q3. In what ways have organizations tried to maintain control? #GuildChat
2:18 PM SimonBlairTrain A2: When working on something, thinking “there must be a better way”, then finding/making one. #GuildChat
2:18 PM McGough3R RT @DonaldClark: A2 #guildchat Learnt to ignore fads – mindfulness, happiness, creativity, 21st C skills, NLP….
2:18 PM Plock2009 RT @LnDDave: A2) my iPhone may as well be called my learning independence tool. #GuildChat
2:18 PM JD_Dillon A2) Feeling free to call “bullshit” on theories and approaches that just don’t make sense (ex: learning styles) #GuildChat
2:18 PM urbie #guildchat A2 One of the takeaways from Intel that’s stayed with me is how we own our own employability. Another reason to do what it takes.
2:19 PM ChadSLowry Q3) Every time an LMS is implemented, an angel loses its wings. #guildchat
2:19 PM SimonBlairTrain A3: By only recognizing learning that takes place in-house. By controlling the purse strings for external learning. #GuildChat
2:19 PM learningsnacks A3. Have they really since the web 2.0? eheheh ;) #GuildChat
2:19 PM McGough3R A3: Schools that block social media?  #GuildChat #minitech
2:19 PM flipchartguy A3) Thinking training solutions can be applied to non-training problems. #guildchat
2:19 PM ChadSLowry Q3) @McGough3R That’s a good example! #guildchat
2:20 PM urbie #guildchat A2 #EdCamp is major. Joining #TCEA #CUE & the eLearningGuild manifest ownership. Getting up and joining conversations too.
2:20 PM SimonBlairTrain @McGough3R Not just schools. Many companies too. #GuildChat
2:20 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Q3. In what ways have organizations tried to maintain control? #GuildChat
2:20 PM JD_Dillon A3) One size fits all programs, formal certifications as $$ grabs, refusal to support the community #GuildChat  https://t.co/Erkp7fcZd7
2:20 PM learningsnacks @McGough3R Even companies that block social media… #GuildChat
2:20 PM Plock2009 A3。not the Org. It’s the risk averse attorneys who force mandatory CYA courses down our throats #GuildChat
2:21 PM ChadSLowry Q3) Orgs that overschedule & don’t consciously allow time for learning among employees should expect to be lapped by competitors. #guildchat
2:21 PM urbie #guildchat brb.. gotta help Mrs thread the weedwhacker.. Freedom apparently means landscaping..
2:21 PM SimonBlairTrain @flipchartguy I should make a course to help people get over that. :-) #GuildChat
2:21 PM JD_Dillon A3) Acting as if learning and performance is a department #GuildChat
2:21 PM learningsnacks A3. Companies that don’t listen to your training needs. #GuildChat
2:22 PM Plock2009 RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Feeling free to call “bullshit” on theories and approaches that just don’t make sense (ex: learning styles) #GuildChat
2:22 PM flipchartguy @SimonBlairTrain May be paradoxical, but could be helpful (esp in mgmt/ldrshp dev programs!). #guildchat
2:22 PM perrinia A3 forcing learning pathways #1 eg lrnr must read this or how will I know they have learned it. Ugh #GuildChat
2:23 PM LaVonnaRoth RT @urbie: #guildchat A2 #EdCamp is major. Joining #TCEA #CUE & the eLearningGuild manifest ownership. Getting up and joining conversations…
2:23 PM McGough3R A3: When leaders don’t enter virtual worlds where their employees frequent. #GuildChat #minitech
2:23 PM Plock2009 RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Acting as if learning and performance is a department #GuildChat
2:23 PM JD_Dillon A3) Believing vendors when they claim their toy will solve problems #GuildChat
2:23 PM Plock2009 RT @perrinia: A3 forcing learning pathways #1 eg lrnr must read this or how will I know they have learned it. Ugh #GuildChat
2:23 PM SimonBlairTrain @perrinia Yes! Because nobody ever just clicks Next. ;-) #GuildChat
2:23 PM ChadSLowry Q3) Not allowing employees to test out of courses. #guildchat
2:24 PM McGough3R Going offline! At Gifford Pinchot State Park. Take care everyone! #GuildChat #minitech
2:24 PM DonaldClark #guildchat Death of LMS? Won’t happen.
2:24 PM ChadSLowry @McGough3R Enjoy! #guildchat
2:25 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Q3. In what ways have organizations tried to maintain control? #GuildChat
2:25 PM JD_Dillon A3) Ignoring people’s existing knowledge and skills, refusing to allow open sharing  #guildchat
2:25 PM flipchartguy Because I want the freedom to multitask today, just wanted to let folks know Serena is tied 5-5 in 3rd set #guildchat
2:25 PM urbie #guildchat A3 My last 2 orgs, under great recession economic pressure, have no $ for PD. If their culture doesn’t push ownership, well..
2:26 PM eLearningGuild Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildChat
2:26 PM LnDDave A3) thinking that what employees Ned to know is a finite list. #GuildChat
2:26 PM urbie #guildchat A3 Oh.. and this thing with LMSs.. that your training has to be input so the org can use as needed?? What’s up with THAT???
2:26 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildC…
2:26 PM perrinia @DonaldClark #guildchat being able to control our LMS gives us leverage and flexibility. But- it is also a collective.
2:26 PM urbie #guildchat A3 I’m a holistic chap. My projects get all of me. Anyway.. back to the chat..
2:27 PM urbie #guildchat A3 I work with clinicians. They get stipends for PD only it has to be accredited. No accreditation, no stipend, no time off.
2:27 PM LnDDave A4) I think trainers face the greatest challenge, mostly due to the fact that learner independence is a threat to “what is”.  #GuildChat
2:27 PM flipchartguy @urbie Were people able to find own paths without funds (like Tweet chats, book clubs, comms of practice, etc)? #guildchat
2:27 PM perrinia @ChadSLowry I meant #guildchat   #toomanytweetmeets
2:28 PM ChadSLowry Q4) Challenges for all 3: 1) Learners need to think about their own learning & take ownership of it. Great oppty for leadership. #guildchat
2:28 PM JD_Dillon A4) L&D faces imminent extinction without considerable changes #GuildChat  https://t.co/6MDzm9eilD
2:28 PM learningsnacks A4. I think L&D. It’s a great change from how things are done now. #GuildChat
2:28 PM SimonBlairTrain A4: Challenge for learners: own their development (vs relying on L&D). Challenge for L&D: staying relevant/useful. #GuildChat
2:28 PM Greggs_Science A1)Enough content to learn without excessive requirement about order and pace #Guildchat
2:28 PM flipchartguy A4) Supervisors may have biggest challenge to support independent lrng; if they don’t know what’s learned, they can’t support it #guildchat
2:28 PM willconstantine RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildC…
2:29 PM urbie @flipchartguy Nope. That’s where culture comes in. We (orgs/us) can’t be passive about it. Engage or fall behind, be irrelevant. #guildchat
2:29 PM ChadSLowry Q4) 2: Challenge for L&D is to offer multiple pathways & modalities for learners. Don’t expect everyone to learn just 1 way. #guildchat
2:29 PM urbie @perrinia mmmhhmm #guildchat
2:29 PM LnDDave A4$ depends on the definition of challenge. I know lots of org said that place plenty of barriers to openness.  #GuildChat
2:30 PM Greggs_Science A2) I am better prepared when creative use cases arise #GuildChat
2:30 PM JD_Dillon A4) To echo Dr. Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park, employees and orgs will find a way – w/o formal L&D #GuildChat
2:30 PM ChadSLowry Q4) 3: Challenge for orgs is to enable & allow learner independence by expecting it. Should be part of review process. #guildchat
2:30 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildC…
2:30 PM willconstantine @ChadSLowry I agree each has their own challenge they are going to encounter. Learners could be overloaded with information #guildchat
2:30 PM perrinia A4 #GuildChat. My money on this one is senior mgmt, esp in hierarchy org. But this has Allowed me to light the revolutn by being under radar
2:31 PM urbie #guildchat A4 Us.
2:31 PM billbollenbach @SimonBlairTrain balance of structure and innovation? Do we intrinsically desire this? #GuildChat
2:31 PM learningsnacks @ChadSLowry Should they be spending the time doing it when they have their own responsibilities? #GuildChat
2:31 PM Greggs_Science A3) When they decide our PD topics based on what they think I need, rather than asking what I think I need #GuildChat
2:32 PM urbie #guildchat A4 15 years ago I did TONS of Flash eLearning work. Nails driven by apps Articulate (awesome tool!) & overseas developers..
2:32 PM perrinia A4. Having it be us is nay so bad.  #GuildChat
2:32 PM DonaldClark A4 #guildchat  all need to adapt & all will gain – dull classroom stuff the long-term loser
2:32 PM SimonBlairTrain @billbollenbach I do, but I’ve seen too many people who refuse to do/learn anything that isn’t specifically mandated. #GuildChat 1/2
2:32 PM learningsnacks @JD_Dillon If we think or ourselves only as course providers, definitely. We need to place ourselves as problem-solvers too. #GuildChat
2:32 PM ChadSLowry @willconstantine Hey, Will! Thanks for the reply. Taking a page from your book & making some homemade tomato paste today. #guildchat
2:33 PM SimonBlairTrain @billbollenbach “Not my job” syndrome is very distressing when applied to personal development. #GuildChat 2/2
2:33 PM Greggs_Science @eLearningGuild  L&D is an unfamiliar acronym to me #GuildChat
2:33 PM urbie #guildchat A4 Implication is if we don’t grow skills we’ll be automated-out. L&D has to grow its options too. #DesignThinking for example..
2:33 PM flipchartguy @Greggs_Science Maybe a balance of the 2? Sometimes we have blindspots and do need to be told, right? #guildchat
2:33 PM urbie #guildchat A4 Orgs? Outsourcing. Show of hands: Who’s lost a good job because it went to a contracting org?
2:33 PM SimonBlairTrain @Greggs_Science @eLearningGuild L&D = Learning & Development #GuildChat
2:34 PM willconstantine Q4) L&D will have trouble because of keeping up with the what they are learning and how to  track it. Enter xAPI #GuildChat
2:34 PM perrinia @ChadSLowry #guildchat we use lean ux on our interactions to ensure we achieve behavioural change. For health, this seems to resonate.
2:34 PM eLearningGuild Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat
2:34 PM ChadSLowry @learningsnacks They shouldn’t be on their own; the org should provide a community for reflection on what they’ve learned. #guildchat
2:34 PM billbollenbach @SimonBlairTrain so true- a work culture environment of shared learning, application and value is key #GuildChat
2:35 PM Greggs_Science @flipchartguy I find they are not evaluating personal blindspots in their choices. It would be more valuable if Orgs did. #GuildChat
2:35 PM urbie #guildchat A4 Heard “Common where possible. Custom where it counts.” from an org somewhere. Cost & data drive decisions. Customize your PD.
2:35 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat
2:36 PM willconstantine @ChadSLowry let me know how it turns out! #GuildChat
2:36 PM SimonBlairTrain A5: That whole web thing, being able to see how other people solve similar problems. Working out loud, even if just with my team. #GuildChat
2:36 PM ChadSLowry Q5) Twitter certainly helps. Being part of an org like @eLearningGuild, too, with all of the resources they provide. #unsolicited #guildchat
2:36 PM JD_Dillon A5) Search, YouTube, Twitter, social anything … #GuildChat  https://t.co/2ZW1qPLLfB
2:36 PM urbie #guildchat A5 Two things.. #EdCamp (exposure to educators in K-12, academia) opened up more ways of knowing than I knew before.. and..
2:36 PM willconstantine @SimonBlairTrain @Greggs_Science @eLearningGuild I think he might have been joking… #GuildChat
2:37 PM willconstantine RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat
2:37 PM learningsnacks A5. The web, social networks, social apps. Mobile!! My always on smartphone. #GuildChat
2:37 PM perrinia a5 blogs. Books. I took @hjarche course on PKM. Now this stuff and meet ups.  #GuildChat
2:37 PM urbie A5 Chats like this #guildchat that help keep conversations going. Thing is, to get a conversation started you need to connect w/others.
2:37 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat
2:37 PM LearnovateSA RT @eLearningGuild: Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the has…
2:38 PM flipchartguy I think @JD_Dillon already mentioned blogging – such a helpful tool to reflect, engage with others and keep learning! #guildchat
2:38 PM JD_Dillon A5) Asking why and refusing to accept the “same old ways” #GuildChat
2:38 PM urbie #guildchat A5 2 years ago #EdCamp opened doors. Last year n this year going to #DevLearn & #mLearnCon kick-started relationships, chats.
2:38 PM DonaldClark A5 #guildchat books, Google, blogging, social media, conversations, travel
2:39 PM LnDDave A5) eye-opening moment was being downsized; it made me realize I learn for me, not my org. #GuildChat
2:39 PM JD_Dillon A5) HipChat helps my team avoid email, share ideas and experiences more quickly and openly #GuildChat
2:39 PM billbollenbach @ChadSLowry @learningsnacks yes! That is the bottom line! When we allowed open exploration and application, whole team benefitted #GuildChat
2:39 PM SimonBlairTrain @DonaldClark Travel? #GuildChat
2:39 PM JD_Dillon RT @LnDDave: A5) eye-opening moment was being downsized; it made me realize I learn for me, not my org. #GuildChat
2:39 PM perrinia @urbie #guildchat #conversationislearning. ;-)
2:40 PM DonaldClark A5 #guildchat Being a non-driver has given me years of extra learning time – honestly, I really am a m-learner http://t.co/1kRhUvFEn8
2:40 PM SimonBlairTrain @DonaldClark I hear that! Sometimes I (almost) miss my 3 hours of daily commute. #GuildChat
2:40 PM perrinia @SimonBlairTrain @DonaldClark #guildchat zomg travel is key. Culture is key. Difference and challenges and perspective is key.
2:41 PM eLearningGuild Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat
2:42 PM willconstantine RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat
2:42 PM learningsnacks A5. Best of all is I feel learning is much more interesting with more chances like this to hear different ideas and experiences #GuildChat
2:42 PM JD_Dillon A6) Evolutionary – modern tech has accelerated what the printing press began #guildchat  https://t.co/9ih63Wai40
2:42 PM ChadSLowry Q6) Feels more evolutionary to me. Web, for instance, changed markedly but slowly from 1.0 to 2.0 to 3.0.  #guildchat
2:43 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat
2:43 PM flipchartguy A6) Personally it’s been more evolutionary – I almost haven’t realized it’s how I’ve been learning more and more. #guildchat
2:43 PM urbie #guildchat A6 Depends.
2:43 PM willconstantine Q6) both. Evol because generations change therefore learning changes. Revol because we should become more responsible as people #GuildChat
2:43 PM billbollenbach A5. TED -Lrng Sol conf-Twitter to share & Pocket app to refer –   #GuildChat
2:43 PM learningsnacks A6. Yes, evolutionary. Totally agree with @JD_Dillon and @ChadSLowry #GuildChat
2:44 PM urbie #guildchat A6 What’d you do with it? Evolutionary if it’s learned then filed away. Application, in my eBook that’s revolution, leverage.
2:45 PM flipchartguy A6) Might be a revolutionary concept for some, but I think the only way it’s accepted & succeeds is evolutionary w/in orgs #guildchat
2:45 PM urbie #guildchat A6 Apply what you learned & magic happens. #showyourwork n others see and talk about it & maybe try n emulate it in their way.
2:46 PM urbie #guildchat A6 Applied independent learning is revolutionary in 2 more ways. Chances are you’ll #FAIL at first. Mistakes are learning..
2:46 PM perrinia #Guildchat a6 i think lrng has always been independent. But we’ve evolved to work with it and called revolutionary. #copout?
2:47 PM urbie #guildchat A6 Lastly, if you’re applying new stuff learned independently, making errors &  tweaking it right you’ll be the only one w/skill.
2:47 PM urbie #guildchat A6 Can you say “increased value to yourself and your org?”
2:48 PM eLearningGuild Q7. How can we help others become more independent learners? #GuildChat
2:48 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat
2:48 PM learningsnacks A7. Giving them the tools to help them #GuildChat
2:49 PM billbollenbach A6 real learning has always taken place independently. Revolutionary as a system tries to make it independent  #GuildChat
2:49 PM JD_Dillon A7) Focus on connecting and enabling others – keep the formal training stuff for right-fit solutions #guildchat  https://t.co/nXM6PIeghR
2:49 PM learningsnacks A7. Allowing them the time, the freedom, the opportunity of trial and error #GuildChat
2:49 PM ChadSLowry Q7) As @urbie points out, you can inspire others by explaining how you came to a solution. Better than simply handing out answers #guildchat
2:49 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Q7. How can we help others become more independent learners? #GuildChat
2:49 PM urbie #guildchat A7 Share your story.
2:49 PM JD_Dillon A7) Acknowledge and appreciate people’s knowledge and skills – help them help others #guildchat  https://t.co/nXM6PIeghR
2:50 PM LnDDave A7) give them the spoon. #GuildChat
2:50 PM Greggs_Science A4 The Org. L&D and Learner follow the Org’s lead. We need great Org Leaders to make L&D and Learner experience great #GuildChat
2:50 PM LnDDave A7) get out of their way.  #GuildChat
2:50 PM ChadSLowry Q7) Set an explicit expectation in your org that you want to hear not just what someone did, but what they learned by doing it. #guildchat
2:50 PM JD_Dillon A7) Stop acting like we own learning – be helpful or get out of the way #GuildChat
2:50 PM learningsnacks A7. Help them to know how to structure their learning – have a purpose, a strategy for it #GuildChat
2:50 PM SimonBlairTrain A7: Don’t give them answers #LMGTFY #GuildChat
2:51 PM Plock2009 A6. Humans learn outside formal structures from birth. It’s like asking if breathing is  revolutionary. Yes- Underh2O, in space,  #GuildChat
2:51 PM JD_Dillon A7) Don’t forsake good ideas due to lack of “ROI” #guildchat
2:51 PM perrinia A7 I fear in my org that formal learning will always be stick/carrot. And that indep learning is not recognised.  #Guildchat
2:51 PM billbollenbach A7 as they experience value- as it is valued and as they enter into community around it #GuildChat
2:52 PM JD_Dillon A7) Create opportunities for safe failure – make training hard – avoid event mentalities #GuildChat
2:52 PM Greggs_Science A5) Setting personal goals for learning, both long and short term #GuildChat
2:53 PM Plock2009 RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Stop acting like we own learning – be helpful or get out of the way #GuildChat
2:53 PM ChadSLowry Q7) The tree of independent learning must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of L&D and the mentally rigid. #guildchat
2:53 PM toddtauber @eLearningGuild Give learners faster, easier access to answers, resources and other people. http://t.co/RZPmOtSQwN #GuildChat
2:53 PM perrinia A7 BUT (!) we can engage and collaborate to grassroots change. So for this Is working. I think.  #Guildchat
2:53 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Create opportunities for safe failure – make training hard – avoid event mentalities #GuildChat
2:53 PM DonaldClark A7 #guildchat buy a notebook – take notes, every day – low-tech I know but works for me
2:53 PM learningsnacks A7. Letting people use social learning tools at work, even if you can’t track it. #GuildChat
2:54 PM billbollenbach @JD_Dillon oh I was waiting to see ROI come up!! #guildchat
2:54 PM eLearningGuild Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat
2:54 PM urbie #guildchat A7 Be out there. Speaking of which, I’m moderating #tlap chat Monday 9 pm EST. Qs are online at https://t.co/vWim6qnI0b Join us..
2:55 PM perrinia @billbollenbach @JD_Dillon me too. Can we let it die and scatter the ashes on that learning tree just mentioned? #guildchat
2:55 PM LearnovateSA RT @eLearningGuild: Please take a moment to introduce yourself and share your work and interests. The 1st question will be posted in just 2…
2:55 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat
2:56 PM billbollenbach @eLearningGuild I’d love to hear thoughts surrounding client training and org employee training sometime.#GuildChat
2:56 PM JD_Dillon Fun and spirited chat … Now let’s take it real world and help others understand and bring it to life! #guildchat  https://t.co/7gVQNRipq3
2:56 PM eLearningGuild Join us next week for #GuildChat as we discuss Augmented and Virtual Reality for Learning #elguild
2:56 PM Plock2009 RT @DonaldClark: A7 #guildchat buy a notebook – take notes, every day – low-tech I know but works for me
2:56 PM Plock2009 RT @eLearningGuild: Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat
2:56 PM ChadSLowry Qwrap) Learning independence is the new normal. Your future, though, depends on how fully you embrace this respsonsibility. #guildchat
2:56 PM billbollenbach @perrinia @JD_Dillon or be bold and figure out how to take it to the next level? #GuildChat
2:57 PM urbie #guildchat Start a conversation with someone you don’t know. They don’t have to do what you do. Diversity rocks. Don’t wait to be downsized.
2:57 PM JD_Dillon RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we discuss Augmented and Virtual Reality for Learning #elguild
2:57 PM LnDDave RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we discuss Augmented and Virtual Reality for Learning #elguild
2:57 PM LnDDave RT @JD_Dillon: Fun and spirited chat … Now let’s take it real world and help others understand and bring it to life! #guildchat  https://…
2:58 PM magdaZINE @eLearningGuild What time is #GuildChat ?
2:58 PM JD_Dillon Thanks for a great chat and happy 4th #guildchat community! Hope to cya at #devlearn. Blogging at http://t.co/8xKUK5eqMk.
2:58 PM eLearningGuild Stay on top of the changing learning technology landscape by joining us at #DevLearn this fall. http://t.co/TbZCWiPKgc #GuildChat
2:58 PM JD_Dillon RT @eLearningGuild: Stay on top of the changing learning technology landscape by joining us at #DevLearn this fall. http://t.co/TbZCWiPKgc …
2:58 PM LnDDave Thanks for the chat folks. Hope everyone in the U.S. enjoys the holiday weekend! #GuildChat
2:59 PM willconstantine RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we discuss Augmented and Virtual Reality for Learning #elguild
2:59 PM billbollenbach @JD_Dillon was fun! Happy Independence Day #GuildChat
3:00 PM ChadSLowry @LnDDave Same to you, Dave! #guildchat
3:00 PM perrinia #devlearn – dare to dream. #scholarship? #Guildchat
3:00 PM learningsnacks Have a nice weekend and Holiday everybody! Hope to see you next week. #GuildChat
3:00 PM urbie RT @eLearningGuild: Stay on top of the changing learning technology landscape by joining us at #DevLearn this fall. http://t.co/TbZCWiPKgc …
3:00 PM eLearningGuild Thanks for joining #GuildChat today everyone. We’ll see you next week!

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Mark is the Director of Event Programming for The Learning Guild. Prior to joining he had worked over 15 years designing and managing learning solutions with organizations such as Smartforce, Pearson Digital Learning, the SUNY Research Foundation, Aspen Dental Management, and Systems Made Simple. Mark is also an Organizational Social Designer, helping businesses achieve the benefits of becoming more connected & collaborative. He is the author of Social By Design: How to create and scale a collaborative company. Mark regularly presents and writes on his The Simple Shift blog about the use of social media for learning, collaborative networks, and organizational design.

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