#GuildChat for 07/03/15: Celebrating Our Learning Independence
Our next #GuildChat takes place Friday, July 3rd at 11am PT / 2pm ET. This week we’ll look to Celebrate our Learning Independence!
Here in the United States we are approaching our Independence Day, The 4th of July. This date marked the beginning of a fight for independence not the completion of it. Similarly, in Learning, we are seeing more and more of it moving outside the confines of the traditional department, classroom and course model. Learning is happening everywhere and the freedom to choose what, where, and when to learn is growing and challenging traditional structures of power and authority.
This week we look at the revolution underway for individuals, organizations and learning professionals and what growing independence means for each; the opportunities and the challenges.
Prospective questions:
Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat
Q2. How has independence manifested itself in your personal learning? #GuildChat
Q3. In what ways have organizations tried to maintain control? #GuildChat
Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildChat
Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat
Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat
Q7. How can we help others become more independent learners?
Chat Transcript
NOTE: Tweets are listed in the order they were posted and are shown in Eastern Time. To visit the actual posting for a particular tweet, click the associated user name for the posting.
2:00 PM | eLearningGuild | Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing Our Learning Independence today. #elGuild |
2:01 PM | eLearningGuild | Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the hashtag in your tweets. |
2:01 PM | Plock2009 | RT @eLearningGuild: #GuildChat starts in just 5 MINUTES. Join us for a chat on Learning Independence. #elguild |
2:01 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing Our Learning Independence tod… |
2:01 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the has… |
2:02 PM | eLearningGuild | Please take a moment to introduce yourself and share your work and interests. The 1st question will be posted in just 2 minutes. #GuildChat |
2:02 PM | Plock2009 | RT @eLearningGuild: Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the has… |
2:03 PM | ChadSLowry | Qintro) Chad Lowry, Customer Education Manager. Spending my Independence Day off from work cleaning the house & doing laundry. #guildchat |
2:03 PM | JD_Dillon | JD in Orlando, FL – popping in and out of today’s #GuildChat – howdy! https://t.co/2U2uc06VFr |
2:03 PM | learningsnacks | Hi everyone! I’m Rita, Instructional Designer & Change Manager. From Lisbon, Portugal. #GuildChat |
2:03 PM | LnDDave | Greetings #GuildChat. David from @eLearningGuild looking forward to today’s chat. |
2:04 PM | ChadSLowry | @learningsnacks Hi Rita, welcome! #guildchat |
2:04 PM | eLearningGuild | Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat |
2:04 PM | Plock2009 | #GuildChat – plock2009 director of a ‘training team’ DCMArea. |
2:04 PM | flipchartguy | Brian from Seattle. Developing learning stuff to help eliminate blindness. Waiting in line to catch a ferry. #guildchat |
2:05 PM | Plock2009 | RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat |
2:05 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat |
2:05 PM | ChadSLowry | Q1) I seek any & all freedoms as learner, so long as I don’t infringe on others’ freedoms. Let me learn when, where, how I want. #guildchat |
2:05 PM | flipchartguy | Confession: I also have an eye on http://t.co/7IfZvNt08v to see if Serena will come all the way back. #guildchat |
2:06 PM | JD_Dillon | A1) Time and space – engage with the content I want when/where I want it #GuildChat https://t.co/gu8K2vcFO7 |
2:06 PM | LnDDave | A1) the freedoms provided by optimized search, #GuildChat |
2:07 PM | Plock2009 | Q1. Freedom to get answers customized to my line of inquiry #GuildChat |
2:07 PM | flipchartguy | A1) Freedom from oppressive training regimes (aka: freedom from lecture or click thru training – depending on ILT or elrng) #guildchat |
2:07 PM | LnDDave | A1) the freedom of letting me find the solution to a problem on my own. #GuildChat |
2:07 PM | ChadSLowry | Q1) Give me time and space to learn, or give me death of my professional development. #guildchat |
2:07 PM | Plock2009 | RT @LnDDave: A1) the freedoms provided by optimized search, #GuildChat |
2:08 PM | learningsnacks | A1. Be able to learn when I need it the most. #GuildChat |
2:08 PM | JD_Dillon | A1) Freedom to connect with people I trust- not necessarily designated trainers or SMEs #GuildChat |
2:08 PM | LnDDave | A1) the freedom of time. Often the importance of personal learning is lost to the urgency of our growing to-do lists. #GuildChat |
2:08 PM | JD_Dillon | RT @LnDDave: A1) the freedom of letting me find the solution to a problem on my own. #GuildChat |
2:08 PM | LnDDave | RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to connect with people I trust- not necessarily designated trainers or SMEs #GuildChat |
2:09 PM | learningsnacks | A1. Have the time to learn and reflect on that same learning. #GuildChat |
2:09 PM | ChadSLowry | RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to connect with people I trust- not necessarily designated trainers or SMEs #GuildChat |
2:09 PM | JD_Dillon | A1) Freedom to choose the path I believe will help me reach my desired outcome #GuildChat |
2:10 PM | flipchartguy | A1) Freedom to try out and play with ideas I may have recently learned #guildchat |
2:10 PM | Plock2009 | Q1. Freedom to choose the “paperclip” or the “professor” help agent in ms office circa 2002. Kidding #GuildChat |
2:10 PM | LnDDave | @learningsnacks yes, the freedom to reflect. To often we lose that because the formal learning event is “over”. #GuildChat |
2:10 PM | JD_Dillon | A1) Freedom to fail and try again #GuildChat |
2:11 PM | ChadSLowry | RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to fail and try again #GuildChat |
2:11 PM | eLearningGuild | Q2. How has independence manifested itself in your personal learning? #GuildChat |
2:11 PM | LnDDave | RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to fail and try again #GuildChat |
2:11 PM | McGough3R | A1: The freedom to try & F.A.I.L. #GuildChat #minitech |
2:11 PM | JD_Dillon | A1) Freedom to ask “why” #GuildChat |
2:11 PM | DonaldClark | Freedom from linearity – page turning, linear courses, linear series of modules. My mind is not a tape recorder #guildchat |
2:12 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. How has independence manifested itself in your personal learning? #GuildChat |
2:12 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Please take a moment to introduce yourself and share your work and interests. The 1st question will be posted in just 2… |
2:12 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What freedoms do you seek as a learner? #GuildChat |
2:12 PM | ChadSLowry | Q2) I’ve always taken the initiative to do what I felt I needed for my own development. I try to enable the same for others. #guildchat |
2:12 PM | LnDDave | RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Freedom to ask “why” #GuildChat |
2:12 PM | urbie | #guildchat urbie, education engineer.. |
2:12 PM | helminatto | @eLearningGuild #GuildChat The freedom to learn one skill in multiple ways. |
2:12 PM | JD_Dillon | A2) Taking control of my professional development – outside the workplace #GuildChat https://t.co/uFREx7x48g |
2:13 PM | LearnovateSA | RT @eLearningGuild: Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing Our Learning Independence tod… |
2:13 PM | flipchartguy | A2) I’ve been fortunate to have some awesome bosses/direct reports willing to allow me to play with newly learned ideas (1/2) #guildchat |
2:13 PM | McGough3R | A2: the ability to learn at #GuildChat while in the Jeep on my way to a lake to swim! Love being connected! #minitech |
2:13 PM | Plock2009 | That whole “wizard” thing… Great example of unintended consequences #GuildChat |
2:14 PM | learningsnacks | A2. Bigger improvement on my performance, and guiding my career where I want it to be #GuildChat |
2:14 PM | learningsnacks | A2. Bigger improvement on my performance, and guiding my career where I want it to be #GuildChat |
2:14 PM | LnDDave | A2) my iPhone may as well be called my learning independence tool. #GuildChat |
2:14 PM | flipchartguy | A2) (2/2) The right boss is pretty key to allowing independent learning to manifest itself! #guildchat |
2:14 PM | LnDDave | RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Taking control of my professional development – outside the workplace #GuildChat https://t.co/uFREx7x48g |
2:14 PM | urbie | #guildchat A1 Expected freedoms as a learner? Dunno. Haven’t given it much thought. Learn n go as I please. Best not waiting on others. |
2:14 PM | DonaldClark | A2 haven’t been on a ‘course’ for over 20 years & dont give a hoot for paper quals #guildchat |
2:15 PM | McGough3R | RT @LnDDave: A2) my iPhone may as well be called my learning independence tool. #GuildChat |
2:15 PM | ChadSLowry | Q2) My company offers an educational stipend each year to every employee to spend as they like on their professional development. #guildchat |
2:15 PM | JD_Dillon | A2) Sharing my ideas and experiences via blogs and presentations (again outside the workplace) #guildchat |
2:15 PM | McGough3R | RT @urbie: #guildchat A1 Expected freedoms as a learner? Dunno. Haven’t given it much thought. Learn n go as I please. Best not waiting on … |
2:16 PM | learningsnacks | A2. Being able to learn without spending gazilions. #GuildChat |
2:16 PM | urbie | #guildchat A1 I suppose that’s where #EdCamp comes in. They’re free. |
2:16 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. How has independence manifested itself in your personal learning? #GuildChat |
2:16 PM | LnDDave | A2) Every time I see something, think “I wonder how they did that?”, and then go find out. #GuildChat |
2:16 PM | Plock2009 | A2) YouTube learning…ability to see myriad examples and non examples of the current home repair challenge #GuildChat |
2:17 PM | DonaldClark | A2 #guildchat Learnt to ignore fads – mindfulness, happiness, creativity, 21st C skills, NLP…. |
2:17 PM | LnDDave | RT @Plock2009: A2) YouTube learning…ability to see myriad examples and non examples of the current home repair challenge #GuildChat |
2:17 PM | JD_Dillon | A2) Recognizing the value of exploration and experience as opposed to reliance on formal education #guildchat |
2:17 PM | urbie | #guildchat A2 That’s a dangerous question. Janis Joplin’s https://t.co/PUXZ76CrHx.. I got to where I had to do something. Org wasn’t. |
2:18 PM | Plock2009 | RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Recognizing the value of exploration and experience as opposed to reliance on formal education #guildchat |
2:18 PM | LnDDave | RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Recognizing the value of exploration and experience as opposed to reliance on formal education #guildchat |
2:18 PM | eLearningGuild | Q3. In what ways have organizations tried to maintain control? #GuildChat |
2:18 PM | SimonBlairTrain | A2: When working on something, thinking “there must be a better way”, then finding/making one. #GuildChat |
2:18 PM | McGough3R | RT @DonaldClark: A2 #guildchat Learnt to ignore fads – mindfulness, happiness, creativity, 21st C skills, NLP…. |
2:18 PM | Plock2009 | RT @LnDDave: A2) my iPhone may as well be called my learning independence tool. #GuildChat |
2:18 PM | JD_Dillon | A2) Feeling free to call “bullshit” on theories and approaches that just don’t make sense (ex: learning styles) #GuildChat |
2:18 PM | urbie | #guildchat A2 One of the takeaways from Intel that’s stayed with me is how we own our own employability. Another reason to do what it takes. |
2:19 PM | ChadSLowry | Q3) Every time an LMS is implemented, an angel loses its wings. #guildchat |
2:19 PM | SimonBlairTrain | A3: By only recognizing learning that takes place in-house. By controlling the purse strings for external learning. #GuildChat |
2:19 PM | learningsnacks | A3. Have they really since the web 2.0? eheheh ;) #GuildChat |
2:19 PM | McGough3R | A3: Schools that block social media? #GuildChat #minitech |
2:19 PM | flipchartguy | A3) Thinking training solutions can be applied to non-training problems. #guildchat |
2:19 PM | ChadSLowry | Q3) @McGough3R That’s a good example! #guildchat |
2:20 PM | urbie | #guildchat A2 #EdCamp is major. Joining #TCEA #CUE & the eLearningGuild manifest ownership. Getting up and joining conversations too. |
2:20 PM | SimonBlairTrain | @McGough3R Not just schools. Many companies too. #GuildChat |
2:20 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Q3. In what ways have organizations tried to maintain control? #GuildChat |
2:20 PM | JD_Dillon | A3) One size fits all programs, formal certifications as $$ grabs, refusal to support the community #GuildChat https://t.co/Erkp7fcZd7 |
2:20 PM | learningsnacks | @McGough3R Even companies that block social media… #GuildChat |
2:20 PM | Plock2009 | A3。not the Org. It’s the risk averse attorneys who force mandatory CYA courses down our throats #GuildChat |
2:21 PM | ChadSLowry | Q3) Orgs that overschedule & don’t consciously allow time for learning among employees should expect to be lapped by competitors. #guildchat |
2:21 PM | urbie | #guildchat brb.. gotta help Mrs thread the weedwhacker.. Freedom apparently means landscaping.. |
2:21 PM | SimonBlairTrain | @flipchartguy I should make a course to help people get over that. :-) #GuildChat |
2:21 PM | JD_Dillon | A3) Acting as if learning and performance is a department #GuildChat |
2:21 PM | learningsnacks | A3. Companies that don’t listen to your training needs. #GuildChat |
2:22 PM | Plock2009 | RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Feeling free to call “bullshit” on theories and approaches that just don’t make sense (ex: learning styles) #GuildChat |
2:22 PM | flipchartguy | @SimonBlairTrain May be paradoxical, but could be helpful (esp in mgmt/ldrshp dev programs!). #guildchat |
2:22 PM | perrinia | A3 forcing learning pathways #1 eg lrnr must read this or how will I know they have learned it. Ugh #GuildChat |
2:23 PM | LaVonnaRoth | RT @urbie: #guildchat A2 #EdCamp is major. Joining #TCEA #CUE & the eLearningGuild manifest ownership. Getting up and joining conversations… |
2:23 PM | McGough3R | A3: When leaders don’t enter virtual worlds where their employees frequent. #GuildChat #minitech |
2:23 PM | Plock2009 | RT @JD_Dillon: A3) Acting as if learning and performance is a department #GuildChat |
2:23 PM | JD_Dillon | A3) Believing vendors when they claim their toy will solve problems #GuildChat |
2:23 PM | Plock2009 | RT @perrinia: A3 forcing learning pathways #1 eg lrnr must read this or how will I know they have learned it. Ugh #GuildChat |
2:23 PM | SimonBlairTrain | @perrinia Yes! Because nobody ever just clicks Next. ;-) #GuildChat |
2:23 PM | ChadSLowry | Q3) Not allowing employees to test out of courses. #guildchat |
2:24 PM | McGough3R | Going offline! At Gifford Pinchot State Park. Take care everyone! #GuildChat #minitech |
2:24 PM | DonaldClark | #guildchat Death of LMS? Won’t happen. |
2:24 PM | ChadSLowry | @McGough3R Enjoy! #guildchat |
2:25 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Q3. In what ways have organizations tried to maintain control? #GuildChat |
2:25 PM | JD_Dillon | A3) Ignoring people’s existing knowledge and skills, refusing to allow open sharing #guildchat |
2:25 PM | flipchartguy | Because I want the freedom to multitask today, just wanted to let folks know Serena is tied 5-5 in 3rd set #guildchat |
2:25 PM | urbie | #guildchat A3 My last 2 orgs, under great recession economic pressure, have no $ for PD. If their culture doesn’t push ownership, well.. |
2:26 PM | eLearningGuild | Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildChat |
2:26 PM | LnDDave | A3) thinking that what employees Ned to know is a finite list. #GuildChat |
2:26 PM | urbie | #guildchat A3 Oh.. and this thing with LMSs.. that your training has to be input so the org can use as needed?? What’s up with THAT??? |
2:26 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildC… |
2:26 PM | perrinia | @DonaldClark #guildchat being able to control our LMS gives us leverage and flexibility. But- it is also a collective. |
2:26 PM | urbie | #guildchat A3 I’m a holistic chap. My projects get all of me. Anyway.. back to the chat.. |
2:27 PM | urbie | #guildchat A3 I work with clinicians. They get stipends for PD only it has to be accredited. No accreditation, no stipend, no time off. |
2:27 PM | LnDDave | A4) I think trainers face the greatest challenge, mostly due to the fact that learner independence is a threat to “what is”. #GuildChat |
2:27 PM | flipchartguy | @urbie Were people able to find own paths without funds (like Tweet chats, book clubs, comms of practice, etc)? #guildchat |
2:27 PM | perrinia | @ChadSLowry I meant #guildchat #toomanytweetmeets |
2:28 PM | ChadSLowry | Q4) Challenges for all 3: 1) Learners need to think about their own learning & take ownership of it. Great oppty for leadership. #guildchat |
2:28 PM | JD_Dillon | A4) L&D faces imminent extinction without considerable changes #GuildChat https://t.co/6MDzm9eilD |
2:28 PM | learningsnacks | A4. I think L&D. It’s a great change from how things are done now. #GuildChat |
2:28 PM | SimonBlairTrain | A4: Challenge for learners: own their development (vs relying on L&D). Challenge for L&D: staying relevant/useful. #GuildChat |
2:28 PM | Greggs_Science | A1)Enough content to learn without excessive requirement about order and pace #Guildchat |
2:28 PM | flipchartguy | A4) Supervisors may have biggest challenge to support independent lrng; if they don’t know what’s learned, they can’t support it #guildchat |
2:28 PM | willconstantine | RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildC… |
2:29 PM | urbie | @flipchartguy Nope. That’s where culture comes in. We (orgs/us) can’t be passive about it. Engage or fall behind, be irrelevant. #guildchat |
2:29 PM | ChadSLowry | Q4) 2: Challenge for L&D is to offer multiple pathways & modalities for learners. Don’t expect everyone to learn just 1 way. #guildchat |
2:29 PM | urbie | @perrinia mmmhhmm #guildchat |
2:29 PM | LnDDave | A4$ depends on the definition of challenge. I know lots of org said that place plenty of barriers to openness. #GuildChat |
2:30 PM | Greggs_Science | A2) I am better prepared when creative use cases arise #GuildChat |
2:30 PM | JD_Dillon | A4) To echo Dr. Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park, employees and orgs will find a way – w/o formal L&D #GuildChat |
2:30 PM | ChadSLowry | Q4) 3: Challenge for orgs is to enable & allow learner independence by expecting it. Should be part of review process. #guildchat |
2:30 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. Who faces the greatest challenge from increased learner independence, learners? L&D? The organization? Why? #GuildC… |
2:30 PM | willconstantine | @ChadSLowry I agree each has their own challenge they are going to encounter. Learners could be overloaded with information #guildchat |
2:30 PM | perrinia | A4 #GuildChat. My money on this one is senior mgmt, esp in hierarchy org. But this has Allowed me to light the revolutn by being under radar |
2:31 PM | urbie | #guildchat A4 Us. |
2:31 PM | billbollenbach | @SimonBlairTrain balance of structure and innovation? Do we intrinsically desire this? #GuildChat |
2:31 PM | learningsnacks | @ChadSLowry Should they be spending the time doing it when they have their own responsibilities? #GuildChat |
2:31 PM | Greggs_Science | A3) When they decide our PD topics based on what they think I need, rather than asking what I think I need #GuildChat |
2:32 PM | urbie | #guildchat A4 15 years ago I did TONS of Flash eLearning work. Nails driven by apps Articulate (awesome tool!) & overseas developers.. |
2:32 PM | perrinia | A4. Having it be us is nay so bad. #GuildChat |
2:32 PM | DonaldClark | A4 #guildchat all need to adapt & all will gain – dull classroom stuff the long-term loser |
2:32 PM | SimonBlairTrain | @billbollenbach I do, but I’ve seen too many people who refuse to do/learn anything that isn’t specifically mandated. #GuildChat 1/2 |
2:32 PM | learningsnacks | @JD_Dillon If we think or ourselves only as course providers, definitely. We need to place ourselves as problem-solvers too. #GuildChat |
2:32 PM | ChadSLowry | @willconstantine Hey, Will! Thanks for the reply. Taking a page from your book & making some homemade tomato paste today. #guildchat |
2:33 PM | SimonBlairTrain | @billbollenbach “Not my job” syndrome is very distressing when applied to personal development. #GuildChat 2/2 |
2:33 PM | Greggs_Science | @eLearningGuild L&D is an unfamiliar acronym to me #GuildChat |
2:33 PM | urbie | #guildchat A4 Implication is if we don’t grow skills we’ll be automated-out. L&D has to grow its options too. #DesignThinking for example.. |
2:33 PM | flipchartguy | @Greggs_Science Maybe a balance of the 2? Sometimes we have blindspots and do need to be told, right? #guildchat |
2:33 PM | urbie | #guildchat A4 Orgs? Outsourcing. Show of hands: Who’s lost a good job because it went to a contracting org? |
2:33 PM | SimonBlairTrain | @Greggs_Science @eLearningGuild L&D = Learning & Development #GuildChat |
2:34 PM | willconstantine | Q4) L&D will have trouble because of keeping up with the what they are learning and how to track it. Enter xAPI #GuildChat |
2:34 PM | perrinia | @ChadSLowry #guildchat we use lean ux on our interactions to ensure we achieve behavioural change. For health, this seems to resonate. |
2:34 PM | eLearningGuild | Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat |
2:34 PM | ChadSLowry | @learningsnacks They shouldn’t be on their own; the org should provide a community for reflection on what they’ve learned. #guildchat |
2:34 PM | billbollenbach | @SimonBlairTrain so true- a work culture environment of shared learning, application and value is key #GuildChat |
2:35 PM | Greggs_Science | @flipchartguy I find they are not evaluating personal blindspots in their choices. It would be more valuable if Orgs did. #GuildChat |
2:35 PM | urbie | #guildchat A4 Heard “Common where possible. Custom where it counts.” from an org somewhere. Cost & data drive decisions. Customize your PD. |
2:35 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat |
2:36 PM | willconstantine | @ChadSLowry let me know how it turns out! #GuildChat |
2:36 PM | SimonBlairTrain | A5: That whole web thing, being able to see how other people solve similar problems. Working out loud, even if just with my team. #GuildChat |
2:36 PM | ChadSLowry | Q5) Twitter certainly helps. Being part of an org like @eLearningGuild, too, with all of the resources they provide. #unsolicited #guildchat |
2:36 PM | JD_Dillon | A5) Search, YouTube, Twitter, social anything … #GuildChat https://t.co/2ZW1qPLLfB |
2:36 PM | urbie | #guildchat A5 Two things.. #EdCamp (exposure to educators in K-12, academia) opened up more ways of knowing than I knew before.. and.. |
2:36 PM | willconstantine | @SimonBlairTrain @Greggs_Science @eLearningGuild I think he might have been joking… #GuildChat |
2:37 PM | willconstantine | RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat |
2:37 PM | learningsnacks | A5. The web, social networks, social apps. Mobile!! My always on smartphone. #GuildChat |
2:37 PM | perrinia | a5 blogs. Books. I took @hjarche course on PKM. Now this stuff and meet ups. #GuildChat |
2:37 PM | urbie | A5 Chats like this #guildchat that help keep conversations going. Thing is, to get a conversation started you need to connect w/others. |
2:37 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. What approaches, tools or technology has helped you be a more independent learner? #GuildChat |
2:37 PM | LearnovateSA | RT @eLearningGuild: Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the has… |
2:38 PM | flipchartguy | I think @JD_Dillon already mentioned blogging – such a helpful tool to reflect, engage with others and keep learning! #guildchat |
2:38 PM | JD_Dillon | A5) Asking why and refusing to accept the “same old ways” #GuildChat |
2:38 PM | urbie | #guildchat A5 2 years ago #EdCamp opened doors. Last year n this year going to #DevLearn & #mLearnCon kick-started relationships, chats. |
2:38 PM | DonaldClark | A5 #guildchat books, Google, blogging, social media, conversations, travel |
2:39 PM | LnDDave | A5) eye-opening moment was being downsized; it made me realize I learn for me, not my org. #GuildChat |
2:39 PM | JD_Dillon | A5) HipChat helps my team avoid email, share ideas and experiences more quickly and openly #GuildChat |
2:39 PM | billbollenbach | @ChadSLowry @learningsnacks yes! That is the bottom line! When we allowed open exploration and application, whole team benefitted #GuildChat |
2:39 PM | SimonBlairTrain | @DonaldClark Travel? #GuildChat |
2:39 PM | JD_Dillon | RT @LnDDave: A5) eye-opening moment was being downsized; it made me realize I learn for me, not my org. #GuildChat |
2:39 PM | perrinia | @urbie #guildchat #conversationislearning. ;-) |
2:40 PM | DonaldClark | A5 #guildchat Being a non-driver has given me years of extra learning time – honestly, I really am a m-learner http://t.co/1kRhUvFEn8 |
2:40 PM | SimonBlairTrain | @DonaldClark I hear that! Sometimes I (almost) miss my 3 hours of daily commute. #GuildChat |
2:40 PM | perrinia | @SimonBlairTrain @DonaldClark #guildchat zomg travel is key. Culture is key. Difference and challenges and perspective is key. |
2:41 PM | eLearningGuild | Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat |
2:42 PM | willconstantine | RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat |
2:42 PM | learningsnacks | A5. Best of all is I feel learning is much more interesting with more chances like this to hear different ideas and experiences #GuildChat |
2:42 PM | JD_Dillon | A6) Evolutionary – modern tech has accelerated what the printing press began #guildchat https://t.co/9ih63Wai40 |
2:42 PM | ChadSLowry | Q6) Feels more evolutionary to me. Web, for instance, changed markedly but slowly from 1.0 to 2.0 to 3.0. #guildchat |
2:43 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat |
2:43 PM | flipchartguy | A6) Personally it’s been more evolutionary – I almost haven’t realized it’s how I’ve been learning more and more. #guildchat |
2:43 PM | urbie | #guildchat A6 Depends. |
2:43 PM | willconstantine | Q6) both. Evol because generations change therefore learning changes. Revol because we should become more responsible as people #GuildChat |
2:43 PM | billbollenbach | A5. TED -Lrng Sol conf-Twitter to share & Pocket app to refer – #GuildChat |
2:43 PM | learningsnacks | A6. Yes, evolutionary. Totally agree with @JD_Dillon and @ChadSLowry #GuildChat |
2:44 PM | urbie | #guildchat A6 What’d you do with it? Evolutionary if it’s learned then filed away. Application, in my eBook that’s revolution, leverage. |
2:45 PM | flipchartguy | A6) Might be a revolutionary concept for some, but I think the only way it’s accepted & succeeds is evolutionary w/in orgs #guildchat |
2:45 PM | urbie | #guildchat A6 Apply what you learned & magic happens. #showyourwork n others see and talk about it & maybe try n emulate it in their way. |
2:46 PM | urbie | #guildchat A6 Applied independent learning is revolutionary in 2 more ways. Chances are you’ll #FAIL at first. Mistakes are learning.. |
2:46 PM | perrinia | #Guildchat a6 i think lrng has always been independent. But we’ve evolved to work with it and called revolutionary. #copout? |
2:47 PM | urbie | #guildchat A6 Lastly, if you’re applying new stuff learned independently, making errors & tweaking it right you’ll be the only one w/skill. |
2:47 PM | urbie | #guildchat A6 Can you say “increased value to yourself and your org?” |
2:48 PM | eLearningGuild | Q7. How can we help others become more independent learners? #GuildChat |
2:48 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. Has increased learning independence been more a revolutionary change or evolutionary? Why? #GuildChat |
2:48 PM | learningsnacks | A7. Giving them the tools to help them #GuildChat |
2:49 PM | billbollenbach | A6 real learning has always taken place independently. Revolutionary as a system tries to make it independent #GuildChat |
2:49 PM | JD_Dillon | A7) Focus on connecting and enabling others – keep the formal training stuff for right-fit solutions #guildchat https://t.co/nXM6PIeghR |
2:49 PM | learningsnacks | A7. Allowing them the time, the freedom, the opportunity of trial and error #GuildChat |
2:49 PM | ChadSLowry | Q7) As @urbie points out, you can inspire others by explaining how you came to a solution. Better than simply handing out answers #guildchat |
2:49 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Q7. How can we help others become more independent learners? #GuildChat |
2:49 PM | urbie | #guildchat A7 Share your story. |
2:49 PM | JD_Dillon | A7) Acknowledge and appreciate people’s knowledge and skills – help them help others #guildchat https://t.co/nXM6PIeghR |
2:50 PM | LnDDave | A7) give them the spoon. #GuildChat |
2:50 PM | Greggs_Science | A4 The Org. L&D and Learner follow the Org’s lead. We need great Org Leaders to make L&D and Learner experience great #GuildChat |
2:50 PM | LnDDave | A7) get out of their way. #GuildChat |
2:50 PM | ChadSLowry | Q7) Set an explicit expectation in your org that you want to hear not just what someone did, but what they learned by doing it. #guildchat |
2:50 PM | JD_Dillon | A7) Stop acting like we own learning – be helpful or get out of the way #GuildChat |
2:50 PM | learningsnacks | A7. Help them to know how to structure their learning – have a purpose, a strategy for it #GuildChat |
2:50 PM | SimonBlairTrain | A7: Don’t give them answers #LMGTFY #GuildChat |
2:51 PM | Plock2009 | A6. Humans learn outside formal structures from birth. It’s like asking if breathing is revolutionary. Yes- Underh2O, in space, #GuildChat |
2:51 PM | JD_Dillon | A7) Don’t forsake good ideas due to lack of “ROI” #guildchat |
2:51 PM | perrinia | A7 I fear in my org that formal learning will always be stick/carrot. And that indep learning is not recognised. #Guildchat |
2:51 PM | billbollenbach | A7 as they experience value- as it is valued and as they enter into community around it #GuildChat |
2:52 PM | JD_Dillon | A7) Create opportunities for safe failure – make training hard – avoid event mentalities #GuildChat |
2:52 PM | Greggs_Science | A5) Setting personal goals for learning, both long and short term #GuildChat |
2:53 PM | Plock2009 | RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Stop acting like we own learning – be helpful or get out of the way #GuildChat |
2:53 PM | ChadSLowry | Q7) The tree of independent learning must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of L&D and the mentally rigid. #guildchat |
2:53 PM | toddtauber | @eLearningGuild Give learners faster, easier access to answers, resources and other people. http://t.co/RZPmOtSQwN #GuildChat |
2:53 PM | perrinia | A7 BUT (!) we can engage and collaborate to grassroots change. So for this Is working. I think. #Guildchat |
2:53 PM | LnDDave | RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Create opportunities for safe failure – make training hard – avoid event mentalities #GuildChat |
2:53 PM | DonaldClark | A7 #guildchat buy a notebook – take notes, every day – low-tech I know but works for me |
2:53 PM | learningsnacks | A7. Letting people use social learning tools at work, even if you can’t track it. #GuildChat |
2:54 PM | billbollenbach | @JD_Dillon oh I was waiting to see ROI come up!! #guildchat |
2:54 PM | eLearningGuild | Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat |
2:54 PM | urbie | #guildchat A7 Be out there. Speaking of which, I’m moderating #tlap chat Monday 9 pm EST. Qs are online at https://t.co/vWim6qnI0b Join us.. |
2:55 PM | perrinia | @billbollenbach @JD_Dillon me too. Can we let it die and scatter the ashes on that learning tree just mentioned? #guildchat |
2:55 PM | LearnovateSA | RT @eLearningGuild: Please take a moment to introduce yourself and share your work and interests. The 1st question will be posted in just 2… |
2:55 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat |
2:56 PM | billbollenbach | @eLearningGuild I’d love to hear thoughts surrounding client training and org employee training sometime.#GuildChat |
2:56 PM | JD_Dillon | Fun and spirited chat … Now let’s take it real world and help others understand and bring it to life! #guildchat https://t.co/7gVQNRipq3 |
2:56 PM | eLearningGuild | Join us next week for #GuildChat as we discuss Augmented and Virtual Reality for Learning #elguild |
2:56 PM | Plock2009 | RT @DonaldClark: A7 #guildchat buy a notebook – take notes, every day – low-tech I know but works for me |
2:56 PM | Plock2009 | RT @eLearningGuild: Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat |
2:56 PM | ChadSLowry | Qwrap) Learning independence is the new normal. Your future, though, depends on how fully you embrace this respsonsibility. #guildchat |
2:56 PM | billbollenbach | @perrinia @JD_Dillon or be bold and figure out how to take it to the next level? #GuildChat |
2:57 PM | urbie | #guildchat Start a conversation with someone you don’t know. They don’t have to do what you do. Diversity rocks. Don’t wait to be downsized. |
2:57 PM | JD_Dillon | RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we discuss Augmented and Virtual Reality for Learning #elguild |
2:57 PM | LnDDave | RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we discuss Augmented and Virtual Reality for Learning #elguild |
2:57 PM | LnDDave | RT @JD_Dillon: Fun and spirited chat … Now let’s take it real world and help others understand and bring it to life! #guildchat https://… |
2:58 PM | magdaZINE | @eLearningGuild What time is #GuildChat ? |
2:58 PM | JD_Dillon | Thanks for a great chat and happy 4th #guildchat community! Hope to cya at #devlearn. Blogging at http://t.co/8xKUK5eqMk. |
2:58 PM | eLearningGuild | Stay on top of the changing learning technology landscape by joining us at #DevLearn this fall. http://t.co/TbZCWiPKgc #GuildChat |
2:58 PM | JD_Dillon | RT @eLearningGuild: Stay on top of the changing learning technology landscape by joining us at #DevLearn this fall. http://t.co/TbZCWiPKgc … |
2:58 PM | LnDDave | Thanks for the chat folks. Hope everyone in the U.S. enjoys the holiday weekend! #GuildChat |
2:59 PM | willconstantine | RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we discuss Augmented and Virtual Reality for Learning #elguild |
2:59 PM | billbollenbach | @JD_Dillon was fun! Happy Independence Day #GuildChat |
3:00 PM | ChadSLowry | @LnDDave Same to you, Dave! #guildchat |
3:00 PM | perrinia | #devlearn – dare to dream. #scholarship? #Guildchat |
3:00 PM | learningsnacks | Have a nice weekend and Holiday everybody! Hope to see you next week. #GuildChat |
3:00 PM | urbie | RT @eLearningGuild: Stay on top of the changing learning technology landscape by joining us at #DevLearn this fall. http://t.co/TbZCWiPKgc … |
3:00 PM | eLearningGuild | Thanks for joining #GuildChat today everyone. We’ll see you next week! |
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