#GuildChat for 7/31/15: Non-learning Technology for Learning

Our next #GuildChat takes place Friday, July 31st at 11am PT / 2pm ET. Our topic for this week’s chat is on the Non-Learning Technology Used for Learning.

Learning is happening everywhere and technology is exposing this reality more and more each day. There are technologies specifically designed to augment learning, technologies like Rapid eLearning development tools, storyboarding software, Webinar platforms and screen sharing software. However tools designed specifically for learning are not the only ones helping individuals and organizations improve their understanding and practice, far from it.

Join us this week as we explore the tools and technologies designed for areas such as communication, marketing, presentations, and editing, etc that are being used in unique and powerful ways to aid in formal, informal and social learning.

Here are the questions being posed in the chat:

Q1. What technologies have you used to aid your own learning that weren’t designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat

Q2. What non-learning technologies are being used in your organization to support learning and performance? #GuildChat

Q3. When might we choose a non-learning technology over one designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat

Q4. What useful features of the non-learning technologies you use would you like to see added to learning technologies.? #GuildChat

Q5. How is non-learn tech for learning received by leaders, L&D, learners in orgs? #GuildChat

Q6. What challenges get in the way of learning professionals using non-learning technologies as part of their efforts? #GuildChat

Q7. How can we promote non-learning technology uses to solve performance problems? #GuildChat

Chat Transcript

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2:01 PM	eLearningGuild	Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing non-learning technology uses for learning.
2:01 PM	eLearningGuild	Today’s chat is scheduled to last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; as a reminder be sure to use the hashtag in your tweets.
2:02 PM	eLearningGuild	Take a moment to introduce yourself and share your work and interests. The first question will be posted in just 2 minutes. #GuildChat
2:02 PM	ChadSLowry	Chad Lowry, Customer Education Manager, Chicago. Working on some learning ecosystem and ID issues today. #guildchat
2:02 PM	unboxedtech	Hi there #guildchat!
2:02 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing non-learning technology uses …
2:03 PM	sifowler	RT @eLearningGuild: Welcome to #GuildChat everyone! #GuildChat is hosted by @eLearningGuild. We’re discussing non-learning technology uses …
2:03 PM	britz	Hi @urbie #guildchat
2:03 PM	britz	@sifowler Hey Simon! It’s been a long time! #guildchat
2:03 PM	sifowler	Man, been a while since I’ve been on a twitter chat – some familiar folks here … hi @britz! #guildchat
2:04 PM	britz	@sifowler Great to see you. What have you been up to? #guildchat
2:04 PM	Paula_Moran	Paula Moran, Instructional Designer for Credit Union in San Francisco. Help train on new systems and improve processes #guildchat
2:04 PM	eLearningGuild	Q1. What technologies have you used to aid your own learning that weren’t designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:04 PM	kreatable	RT @eLearningGuild: Today’s chat will last one hour. We’ll post questions using #GuildChat; be sure to use the hashtag in your tweets.
2:04 PM	MrMiNiKi	Hello. Nick from UK. LnDer, though decidedly unsure about calling it that anymore. Cup of tea in left hand. You in my right. #guildchat
2:04 PM	CRobinsonKeys	Hi All, Christopher Robinson-Keys, eLearning Specialist & LMS Admin, North York General Hospital, Toronto, ON, Canada. #guildchat
2:04 PM	britz	@Paula_Moran Welcome Paula #guildchat
2:04 PM	britz	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What technologies have you used to aid your own learning that weren’t designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:05 PM	Quinnovator	Clark Quinn, L&D Revolution instigator, consultant/speaker/author, learn tech geek, Walnut Creek CA joining #guildchat
2:05 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What technologies have you used to aid your own learning that weren’t designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:05 PM	britz	A1. Twitter #guildchat
2:05 PM	ChadSLowry	Q1) Was YouTube designed for learning purposes, or entertainment? #guildchat
2:06 PM	Quinnovator	a1) word processing, search, blogging, tweeting, and diagramming software #guildchat
2:06 PM	urbie	Urbie, instructional design thinker #guildchat from somewhere in Arizona
2:06 PM	JD_Dillon	Howdy #GuildChat! Joining late – JD in Orlando, FL …
2:06 PM	urbie	@britz hello Britz #guildchat
2:06 PM	britz	@ChadSLowry I think it was designed for “whatever” people turn tools like YouTube into opportunities #guildchat
2:06 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What technologies have you used to aid your own learning that weren’t designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:07 PM	JD_Dillon	A1) Twitter, FlipBoard, WordPress, Google, Google, Google, Google, YouTube … #GuildChat https://t.co/ntMvUcCn90
2:07 PM	britz	RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Twitter, FlipBoard, WordPress, Google, Google, Google, Google, YouTube … #GuildChat https://t.co/ntMvUcCn90
2:07 PM	ChadSLowry	Q1) @britz OK, then I’ll say YouTube. #guildchat
2:07 PM	sifowler	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What technologies have you used to aid your own learning that weren’t designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:07 PM	britz	@ChadSLowry :) #guildchat
2:08 PM	MrMiNiKi	A1) I became a father for a second time to apply reflection and learning #guildchat
2:08 PM	valarywithawhy	A1 Social media apps, games, QR codes #GuildChat
2:08 PM	urbie	A1 My Honda Pilot. After work today it’ll take me to #EdCampHOT near Waco, Texas. #guildchat Pushing 400,000 miles. How’s that for efficacy?
2:08 PM	ChadSLowry	Q1) @MrMiNiKi “The Technology of Babies” would be a good name for a book. #guildchat
2:08 PM	unboxedtech	@MrMiNiKi What would you call yourself instead? #guildchat
2:09 PM	Paula_Moran	A1) Regardless of its intent. It does both. I really enjoy how it does entertaining education. #guildchat
2:09 PM	britz	@urbie My civic has only reached 200K this year. #imnotworthy #guildchat
2:10 PM	ChadSLowry	@britz @urbie I had a ’98 Civic with ~220K miles on it. Gave it to charity in 2013. #guildchat
2:10 PM	anchalmanocha	A1. Twitter, blogging, youtube, facebook to an extent, linkedin these days etc. #guildchat
2:10 PM	sifowler	A1) always questioning the question, sorry … ‘learning purposes’ != ‘informational purposes’, so still pondering answer #guildchat
2:10 PM	urbie	@britz I like not having car payments #guildchat
2:11 PM	britz	A1. Not me but my son – used toy tractor early on to learn how to drive riding lawnmower today #guildchat
2:11 PM	ChadSLowry	Q1) @anchalmanocha Agree with “facebook to an extent” #guildchat
2:11 PM	urbie	@ChadSLowry @britz In ’01 I donated a used up Ford Festiva. Loved that car. #guildchat
2:11 PM	eLearningGuild	Q2. What non-learning technologies are being used in your organization to support learning and performance? #GuildChat
2:11 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. What non-learning technologies are being used in your organization to support learning and performance? #GuildChat
2:11 PM	britz	@urbie likewise. bought new in ’01 #guildchat
2:11 PM	britz	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. What non-learning technologies are being used in your organization to support learning and performance? #GuildChat
2:11 PM	DonaldClark	@britz @ChadSLowry #guildchat Saturday Night Live’s Lazy Sunday clip (entertainment) – education an unexpected consequence
2:12 PM	urbie	Who’s doing #edCampGlobal tonight? Completely online PD #guildchat @edcampGlobal
2:12 PM	oxala75	RT @urbie: Who’s doing #edCampGlobal tonight? Completely online PD #guildchat @edcampGlobal
2:12 PM	Paula_Moran	I like the blurring of lines between education and entertainment and the fact non-educators are taking advantage of it #guildchat
2:12 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. What non-learning technologies are being used in your organization to support learning and performance? #GuildChat
2:12 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) Repeat my list from earlier – whatever people can access and supports their WIIFMs/behaviors #GuildChat https://t.co/D1LoWHAYBT
2:12 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. What non-learning technologies are being used in your organization to support learning and performance? #GuildChat
2:12 PM	sifowler	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. What non-learning technologies are being used in your organization to support learning and performance? #GuildChat
2:12 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A1) Snagit, Powtoon, Audacity, are all tools that can be combined to present information that captures the learner attention. #guildchat
2:13 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) We deployed Confluence – simple wiki – as a knowledge base to drive all of our support efforts #GuildChat
2:13 PM	urbie	#guildchat A2 Ok, don’t read too much into this: PowerPoint.
2:13 PM	Quinnovator	a2) tools for curation, creation, and collaboration #guildchat
2:13 PM	britz	A2. On the social side – Yammer is in use for Q&A, collaboration #guildchat
2:13 PM	Paula_Moran	Jack Black recently put out a youtube video on the Iran nuclear deal. People watch because it’s entertaining & learn #guildchat
2:13 PM	ChadSLowry	Q2) We use Atlassian’s wiki tools to help curate knowledge #guildchat
2:13 PM	ChadSLowry	Q2) We use Atlassian’s wiki tools to help curate knowledge #guildchat
2:14 PM	Quinnovator	a2) tools for curation, creation, communication, and collaboration #guildchat #newandimproved
2:14 PM	Paula_Moran	A2) the intranet portal. #guildchat
2:14 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) Regardless, the “non-learning” tech is used A LOT more than the “learning tech” #GuildChat
2:14 PM	sifowler	A2a) I’d wish to say most of Jane’s top 100 are used http://t.co/5rFw9ZdnhK for learning and performance #guildchat
2:14 PM	MrMiNiKi	A1 not sure if this counts but I used GarageBand to mix a podcast interview with some beats. #guildchat
2:14 PM	DonaldClark	A1 #guildchat trains and planes – can’t drive and do loads of learning when travelling http://t.co/IhFNAZfyJI
2:14 PM	britz	A2. Is anyone using email as a deliberate learning “vehicle”? #guildchat
2:14 PM	anchalmanocha	A 1. A blog we’d written on Twitter skills for learners: http://t.co/TK11EIvllG Me-casting vs. Mind-casting for learning #guildchat
2:15 PM	sifowler	a2b) but in reality the MOST common tool used for learning & perf explicitly is phone, shared physical space, and email #guildchat
2:15 PM	valarywithawhy	A2 SharePoint and Lync #GuildChat
2:15 PM	ChadSLowry	Q2) @britz We use it to promote our training events/webinars, but that’s about it. #guildchat
2:15 PM	DonaldClark	A1 #guildchat iPod then mobile – love podcasts, esp BBCs free In Our Time
2:15 PM	engfahadg	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1. What technologies have you used to aid your own learning that weren’t designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:15 PM	IClaudiad	@eLearningGuild: Q1. My list would be really long as most tech were not designed for learning but have been re-appropriated. #GuildChat
2:15 PM	Paula_Moran	@urbie PowerPoint is a powerful tool. I love it #guildchat
2:15 PM	engfahadg	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2. What non-learning technologies are being used in your organization to support learning and performance? #GuildChat
2:16 PM	britz	@ChadSLowry I’ve seen email used for spaced learning (prompting) #guildchat
2:16 PM	Paula_Moran	@britz I’ve done the change management communications packaged with some learning via email #guildchat
2:16 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A2) @britz email as a learning vehicle? Interesting idea. #Guildchat
2:17 PM	britz	@Paula_Moran @urbie I’ve learned to do basic image editing via PPT #guildchat
2:17 PM	DonaldClark	A2 #guildchat Maybe no such thing as non-learning technology – we learn to use and use to learn?
2:17 PM	anchalmanocha	A2. Yammer and blogging. #guildchat Tried rapid blogging in classrooms…
2:17 PM	MrMiNiKi	A2 I’m struggling with this idea of non-learning technology #guildchat
2:17 PM	ChadSLowry	@britz I developed a calendar for spaced learning over a month. We had a lot of debate over whether to send email once, or daily. #guildchat
2:18 PM	Paula_Moran	@britz @urbie Tom Kuhlmanns stuff on PPT graphics editing is amazing #guildchat
2:18 PM	sifowler	(Side Q: what y’all using for tweet chat? http://t.co/WviN5VpumT seems to be very selective about what tweets it shows?) #guildchat
2:18 PM	eLearningGuild	Q3. When might we choose a non-learning technology over one designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:18 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) Likely also not a clear definition of “learning tech” – all up to how the user perceives/uses #GuildChat https://t.co/ZIY1XmndhM
2:18 PM	britz	@DonaldClark In this context it means more like tech that was developed for a specific purpose other than learning #guildchat
2:18 PM	DonaldClark	A2 #guildchat We evolved as H Sapiens through the use of tools & tech. see Baldwin effect http://t.co/uCgdb92oVx
2:18 PM	britz	RT @eLearningGuild Q3. When might we choose a non-learning technology over one designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:19 PM	unboxedtech	A3: Simpler and more intuitive to use. #guildchat
2:19 PM	ChadSLowry	Q3) Speed is one factor, but the flavor could be another. Is a lesson best delivered formally or informally? #guildchat
2:19 PM	anchalmanocha	A2. We had “morning mail” that did a round up of all people had blogged & shared over a week…Acted like an aggregator. #guildchat
2:19 PM	JaneBozarth	@britz used to do email based scavenger hunt game for new hires #guildchat
2:19 PM	britz	@valarywithawhy tell us more! #GuildChat
2:20 PM	britz	RT @JaneBozarth: @britz used to do email based scavenger hunt game for new hires #guildchat
2:20 PM	sifowler	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3. When might we choose a non-learning technology over one designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:20 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A2) I’ve heard someone use excel in Google Drive displayed on a screen 4 real time question & answer during a streamed lecture. #guildchat
2:20 PM	unboxedtech	A3: More of a “habit” to use the tool/technology #guildchat
2:20 PM	Paula_Moran	A3) if the non-learning technology is integrated into the daily work use it instead of forcing them to go out for learning #guildchat
2:20 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3. When might we choose a non-learning technology over one designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:20 PM	unboxedtech	RT @Paula_Moran: A3) if the non-learning technology is integrated into the daily work use it instead of forcing them to go out for learning…
2:20 PM	ChadSLowry	@sifowler @britz Don’t know off the top of my head, I’d have to check w/Marketing (who sent it). #guildchat
2:20 PM	anchalmanocha	A3. When we want people’s ideas to collide in informal settings. #guildchat
2:20 PM	Quinnovator	a3) when we’re going beyond formal learning, or scaffolding learning to learn from the classroom to the workplace #guildchat
2:21 PM	ChadSLowry	Q3) Generally, any time you can leverage an affordance in a new way, people will probably appreciate the convenience. #guildchat
2:21 PM	MrMiNiKi	A3 when the learners have chosen it for us #guildchat
2:21 PM	DonaldClark	A3 #guildchat When its consumer sucess means it’s used by almost all learners – Google, YouTube, Twitter, Blogger, Email…
2:21 PM	Quinnovator	RT @MrMiNiKi: A3 when the learners have chosen it for us #guildchat
2:22 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A3) When conventional learning tools wouldn’t cut the mustard, so to speak. Or to shake things up in the classroom. #guildchat
2:22 PM	sifowler	RT @MrMiNiKi: A2 I’m struggling with this idea of non-learning technology #guildchat
2:22 PM	unboxedtech	RT @CRobinsonKeys: A3) When conventional learning tools wouldn’t cut the mustard, so to speak. Or to shake things up in the classroom. #gui…
2:22 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3. When might we choose a non-learning technology over one designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:22 PM	britz	A3. When learning abt a technology from the actual technology is best vs a simulation of it #guildchat
2:23 PM	MathVermeulen	RT @DonaldClark: A2 #guildchat Maybe no such thing as non-learning technology – we learn to use and use to learn?
2:23 PM	Quinnovator	a3) when you want to meet the learners where they are #guildchat
2:24 PM	MathVermeulen	A2. I’m currently working with Pinterest & Spreaker as non-learning tech tools to support learning. #GuildChat
2:24 PM	sifowler	A3) ‘non-learning tech’ implies the brain isn’t required … so I think it’d be about using magical automation software #guildchat
2:24 PM	urbie	@Paula_Moran #guildchat death by Powerpoint?
2:24 PM	anchalmanocha	A3. When learner to learner interaction is more important than learner to content engagement. #guildchat
2:24 PM	valarywithawhy	@britz Technical skills curriculum w custom emails for assessment feedback & pre-canned follow-ups w aids & activities #guildchat
2:24 PM	britz	@sifowler @MrMiNiKi Think of it as tech that wasn’t designed specifically for learning/teaching purposes #guildchat
2:24 PM	DonaldClark	A3 #guildchat More pedagogic change in last 10 or so years than last 2000 years because of internet and consumer tech http://t.co/ECDRcfrRLC
2:25 PM	JaneBozarth	Oh yeah there’s this…http://t.co/RsadO1blYT #guildchat
2:25 PM	unboxedtech	+1 #guildchat https://t.co/TM9xbqzVPf
2:25 PM	britz	RT @JaneBozarth: Oh yeah there’s this…http://t.co/RsadO1blYT #guildchat
2:25 PM	Paula_Moran	@urbie ppt is a tool. Just like any other, you can use it poorly or well. #guildchat
2:25 PM	JaneBozarth	@DonaldClark … and not your bad homemade thing that is not, in fact “almost like Facebook”. #guildchat
2:26 PM	JaneBozarth	RT @MrMiNiKi: A3 when the learners have chosen it for us #guildchat
2:26 PM	eLearningGuild	Q4. What useful features of the non-learning technologies you use would you like to see added to learning technologies.? #GuildChat
2:26 PM	JaneBozarth	@MrMiNiKi YES. Pay attention to what they like/use. Go to them. #guildchat
2:26 PM	sifowler	Notion of ‘non-learning technology’ is provocative because it challenges compartmental thinking: “now I’m learning, now I’m not” #guildchat
2:26 PM	JaneBozarth	RT @DonaldClark: A2 #guildchat Maybe no such thing as non-learning technology – we learn to use and use to learn?
2:26 PM	JD_Dillon	A3) When it meets the users’ needs … #GuildChat https://t.co/qZkyrVtFom
2:26 PM	britz	A4. customization… lots and lots of customization #guildchat
2:27 PM	vidyakumar	A3) We recently used QR codes for a performance support solution. #GuildChat
2:27 PM	ChadSLowry	Q4) Haven’t been able to figure out why Adobe hasn’t added a volume control to its Captivate playbar. #guildchat
2:27 PM	MathVermeulen	A4. A lot of non-learning tools have great UX and UI and that’s what a lot of learning tools really need! #GuildChat
2:27 PM	JaneBozarth	@DonaldClark lol #guildchat
2:27 PM	vidyakumar	RT @DonaldClark: A2 #guildchat Maybe no such thing as non-learning technology – we learn to use and use to learn?
2:27 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. What useful features of the non-learning technologies you use would you like to see added to learning technologies.…
2:27 PM	ChadSLowry	RT @MathVermeulen: A4. A lot of non-learning tools have great UX and UI and that’s what a lot of learning tools really need! #GuildChat
2:27 PM	britz	@sifowler A question of that nature coming up soon! Did you see the test questions in advance?? :) #guildchat
2:27 PM	sifowler	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. What useful features of the non-learning technologies you use would you like to see added to learning technologies.…
2:27 PM	anchalmanocha	A4. Commenting, liking, sharing, curating for later use etc. #guildchat
2:27 PM	Paula_Moran	A4) some non-learning technologies have more effort put into their UX. #guildchat
2:27 PM	JD_Dillon	A4) Less vault-like, more flexible to facilitate sharing of knowledge between ANYONE in simple ways #GuildChat https://t.co/soE9GREzOf
2:27 PM	unboxedtech	RT @MathVermeulen: A4. A lot of non-learning tools have great UX and UI and that’s what a lot of learning tools really need! #GuildChat
2:28 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A3) Smart phones aren’t specifically made for learning, but are being increasing used as mediums to carry and provide training. #guildchat
2:28 PM	unboxedtech	.@MathVermeulen YES! An amazing experience is a must. #guildchat #learning
2:28 PM	sifowler	A4) mostly it’s about the user interface – better UX in learning technologies #guildchat
2:28 PM	edcampGlobal	RT @urbie: Who’s doing #edCampGlobal tonight? Completely online PD #guildchat @edcampGlobal
2:28 PM	Quinnovator	a4) more open, more stable, more usable, more integrable #guildchat
2:28 PM	unboxedtech	RT @sifowler: A4) mostly it’s about the user interface – better UX in learning technologies #guildchat
2:28 PM	britz	RT @MathVermeulen: A4. A lot of non-learning tools have great UX and UI and that’s what a lot of learning tools really need! #GuildChat
2:29 PM	britz	RT @Quinnovator: a4) more open, more stable, more usable, more integrable #guildchat
2:29 PM	britz	@Quinnovator Open. Yes, That! #guildchat
2:29 PM	sifowler	A4) but actually for me I’d prefer to see more “learning theory” applied to ‘non-learning technology’ #guildchat
2:29 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @Quinnovator: a4) more open, more stable, more usable, more integrable #guildchat
2:29 PM	anchalmanocha	A4. More learner centric features rather than admin centric. #guildchat
2:29 PM	unboxedtech	RT @Quinnovator: a4) more open, more stable, more usable, more integrable #guildchat
2:29 PM	MathVermeulen	QR codes are cool (and effective) things to use for learning! #guildchat https://t.co/8zYRgzKI0y
2:29 PM	DonaldClark	A4 #guildchat For me is ‘less is more’ (core lesson in psych of learning) and tech has proved it – we love Twitter, YouTube, Google etc.
2:29 PM	JD_Dillon	A4) Flexibility … I can make it what I want – not what the org/training wants … #GuildChat
2:30 PM	valarywithawhy	A4 Better integration into daily work. Want them to be able to see that learning is part of the work. #guildchat
2:30 PM	lesleywprice	Agree! Just look at High St stalwarts that have failed because they didn’t use technology effectively! #guildchat https://t.co/aulBaOnaFQ
2:30 PM	Paula_Moran	a4) looks like we have consensus around the UX/UI need in learning tools #guildchat
2:30 PM	britz	@sifowler Darn you Fowler! That’s next weeks topic – Theories and Practices #guildchat
2:31 PM	britz	@Paula_Moran Do hope the vendors are listening :) #guildchat
2:31 PM	Paula_Moran	stepping away #guildchat
2:31 PM	unboxedtech	RT @valarywithawhy: A4 Better integration into daily work. Want them to be able to see that learning is part of the work. #guildchat
2:31 PM	PatIngerick	TweetDeck! I can organize hashtags to track topics of interest. Great for allowing students to explore. #Guildchat
2:31 PM	britz	RT @DonaldClark: A4 #guildchat For me is ‘less is more’ (core lesson in psych of learning) and tech has proved it – we love Twitter, YouTub…
2:31 PM	DonaldClark	A4 #guildchat Cognitive ergonomics – good tech that ‘fits’ the way the brain works and how we actually learn. That is the key to success?
2:31 PM	britz	@Paula_Moran Thx for joining in! #guildchat
2:31 PM	ChadSLowry	RT @valarywithawhy: A4 Better integration into daily work. Want them to be able to see that learning is part of the work. #guildchat
2:32 PM	PatIngerick	I think QR codes are an interesting, but underused resource @vidyakumar #GuildChat
2:32 PM	sifowler	RT @DonaldClark: A4 #guildchat Cognitive ergonomics – good tech that ‘fits’ the way the brain works and how we actually learn. That is the …
2:32 PM	MrMiNiKi	A4 Maybe more Lite versions with In-App purchase options #guildchat
2:32 PM	urbie	@Paula_Moran #guildchat True that. Most times I hear designers/developers talk up PowerPoint. Learners, not do much.
2:32 PM	sifowler	RT @DonaldClark: A4 #guildchat For me is ‘less is more’ (core lesson in psych of learning) and tech has proved it – we love Twitter, YouTub…
2:32 PM	JaneBozarth	RT @DonaldClark: A4 #guildchat For me is ‘less is more’ (core lesson in psych of learning) and tech has proved it – we love Twitter, YouTub…
2:32 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3. When might we choose a non-learning technology over one designed for learning purposes? #GuildChat
2:32 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4. What useful features of the non-learning technologies you use would you like to see added to learning technologies.…
2:33 PM	eLearningGuild	Q5. How is non-learn tech used for learning received by leaders, L&D, learners in orgs? #GuildChat
2:33 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. How is non-learn tech used for learning received by leaders, L&D, learners in orgs? #GuildChat
2:33 PM	PatIngerick	I like ScoopIt! Not sure if it is actually a learning specific technology but great for curating,sharing content @anchalmanocha #GuildChat
2:33 PM	DonaldClark	A4 #guildchat Big shout for the humble paper ‘notebook’. Great peice of tech….
2:33 PM	sifowler	@britz :) sorry man! just on your wavelength!! #guildchat
2:33 PM	sifowler	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. How is non-learn tech used for learning received by leaders, L&D, learners in orgs? #GuildChat
2:33 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A4) Open portals that allow learners to explore and develop their own learning paths. We still micro-manage learners. #guildchat
2:34 PM	ChadSLowry	Q5) Anything you can do cheaper, faster, smarter will be embraced with open arms by leaders. #guildchat
2:34 PM	urbie	#guildchat A3 When situation demands it. Like working w law enforcement officers (LEO) in the field. Lacking a whiteboard sketching on dirt.
2:34 PM	Quinnovator	a5) leaders and learners say ‘yay’, L&D says ‘huh’? #guildchat #tonguesomewhatincheek
2:34 PM	JD_Dillon	A5) Users = preferred; Leaders = doesn’t matter; L&D = mostly ignored; Orgs = don’t know difference #GuildChat https://t.co/bSNBBV03UP
2:34 PM	britz	A6. In my experience of manipulating various SharePoint functions – Most leaders were all for whatever works. L&D skeptical #guildchat
2:34 PM	PatIngerick	Like with all technologies, interoperability is key to get to true integration for IOT #guildchat @Quinnovator
2:35 PM	urbie	#guildchat Back. Had to help a rattlesnake transit my space v
2:35 PM	valarywithawhy	@PatIngerick @anchalmanocha I’m a big scooper too :) #guildchat
2:35 PM	JaneBozarth	Q5 Most don’t care about “learning”. Show results/outcomes. #guildchat
2:35 PM	PatIngerick	Too true! @vidyakumar I think almost any technology tool/app/platform can be used for learning/teaching. #guildchat
2:36 PM	sifowler	A5) It’s often a challenge for L&D AND learners b/c it requires more learner ownership for learning vs passive reception of info #guildchat
2:36 PM	MrMiNiKi	A5 yep, they love video. It’s all marketing to them. #guildchat
2:36 PM	anchalmanocha	@PatIngerick Agree! http://t.co/7imIEjFdnS and other bookmarking tools are helpful too. #guildchat
2:36 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @JaneBozarth: Q5 Most don’t care about “learning”. Show results/outcomes. #guildchat
2:36 PM	urbie	#guildchat A4 Dirt & twig add authenticity to training. It’s something anyone can pick up and immediately be proficient in.
2:36 PM	urbie	RT @JaneBozarth: Oh yeah there’s this…http://t.co/RsadO1blYT #guildchat
2:36 PM	DonaldClark	A5 #guildchat Training & education not cool, so learners sort of suspicious when it’s hijacked by teachers and L&D. School is not cool!
2:37 PM	JD_Dillon	A5) The “if we don’t show them they’ll never know” mentality in L&D/orgs gets in the way – meanwhile users drive on their own #GuildChat
2:37 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. How is non-learn tech used for learning received by leaders, L&D, learners in orgs? #GuildChat
2:37 PM	MathVermeulen	A5. For 90% of L&D, it’s tech, so scary. For leaders, they don’t care, they just want results. And learners expect nothing less. #GuildChat
2:37 PM	valarywithawhy	A5 Right tool, everyone is happy. Sometimes its a piece of paper. Learners want useful and engaging and leaders want it to work #guildchat
2:37 PM	PatIngerick	Right. Relevance matters esp with adult learners @valarywithawhy #GuildChat
2:37 PM	anchalmanocha	A5. Getting anything past the IT security norms for internal training use is usually a challenge. #guildchat
2:37 PM	britz	A5. Most leaders got to where they are because of creativity, innovation. Anything that gets them where they want go is applauded #guildchat
2:37 PM	ChadSLowry	Beep Beep! Outta my way!! #guildchat https://t.co/4zrxO6Jwzo
2:37 PM	tstarkey1212	RT @DonaldClark: A4 #guildchat Big shout for the humble paper ‘notebook’. Great peice of tech….
2:38 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A5) Learners tend to be entrenched in the old, reliable, solutions. Branching out of the box or off the page can impact ROI. #guildchat
2:38 PM	urbie	#guildchat A5 Aside from freaking out when $ needs to be spent don’t think it masters much to higher ups. Getter done.
2:39 PM	urbie	RT @Quinnovator: a5) leaders and learners say ‘yay’, L&D says ‘huh’? #guildchat #tonguesomewhatincheek
2:39 PM	britz	A5. L&D: “But we have Captivate. We should just use it instead.” #guildchat
2:39 PM	PatIngerick	A5) Learner love it! Leaders don’t like to buy it because ROI difficult to prove. #Guildchat
2:39 PM	britz	RT @MathVermeulen: A5. For 90% of L&D, it’s tech, so scary. For leaders, they don’t care, they just want results. And learners expect nothi…
2:39 PM	urbie	@britz I know, right? What’s up with that? #guildchat
2:40 PM	PatIngerick	And highlighter…gotta have the yellow one! @DonaldClark #Guildchat
2:40 PM	eLearningGuild	Q6. What challenges get in the way of learning professionals using non-learning technologies as part of their efforts? #GuildChat
2:40 PM	britz	@urbie Can’t leave the Porche in the garage… #guildchat
2:40 PM	britz	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. What challenges get in the way of learning professionals using non-learning technologies as part of their efforts? …
2:40 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. What challenges get in the way of learning professionals using non-learning technologies as part of their efforts? …
2:41 PM	urbie	#guildchat A5 Michaels’ (crafts store) is my fav source fir ELearning supplies. Prototype an idea. Take pix. Hand off to developer. Win.
2:41 PM	sifowler	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. What challenges get in the way of learning professionals using non-learning technologies as part of their efforts? …
2:41 PM	bramireztusd	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. What challenges get in the way of learning professionals using non-learning technologies as part of their efforts? …
2:41 PM	vidyakumar	A5) Leaders looks for results, while learners are for the experience. #GuildChat
2:41 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. What challenges get in the way of learning professionals using non-learning technologies as part of their efforts? …
2:41 PM	britz	A6. A lack of imagination #guildchat
2:41 PM	anchalmanocha	A5. Not always easy to introduce new tools for learning. Sometimes try to use the ones that learners are already comfy with. #guildchat
2:41 PM	Quinnovator	a6) need to control, lack of familiarity, comfort zone #guildchat
2:41 PM	JaneBozarth	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6. What challenges get in the way of learning professionals using non-learning technologies as part of their efforts? …
2:41 PM	vidyakumar	Q6) No ready integration perhaps? #GuildChat
2:42 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A6) Possibly the discomfort or unfamiliarity of the learners to using tools outside of the generally understood functions. #guildchat
2:42 PM	JD_Dillon	A6) Saddled with dated tech/pushed to use to justify cost, desire to “own” to justify existence #GuildChat https://t.co/E97uQu3Ngb
2:42 PM	ChadSLowry	Q6) Awareness is one. Can’t leverage Pinterest, etc. if you don’t know what they are. Head-in-Sand syndrome mentioned earlier. #guildchat
2:42 PM	valarywithawhy	@britz They must be captivated by it :P But there are so many other bright shiny toys to play with. #guildchat
2:42 PM	vidyakumar	A6) No ready integration perhaps? #GuildChat
2:42 PM	JaneBozarth	Q5 Worried they won’t get “credit” #ThanksLMS #Guildchat
2:42 PM	JD_Dillon	A6) Inability to connect real-world behaviors w/ workplace needs (ex: search, knowledge base, video) #GuildChat https://t.co/E97uQu3Ngb
2:42 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @Quinnovator: a6) need to control, lack of familiarity, comfort zone #guildchat
2:42 PM	JaneBozarth	Q5 New tools don’t fit in the familiar box. #guildchat
2:42 PM	MathVermeulen	A6.The nightmares L&D still has of implementing the LMS impacts the use of other – more useful – tech. #guildchat
2:42 PM	sifowler	A6) challenge is that mentality is neither for learning or “learning & performance” so it’s just ‘used’, sans brain #guildchat
2:42 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @britz: A6. A lack of imagination #guildchat
2:42 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @JaneBozarth: Q5 Worried they won’t get “credit” #ThanksLMS #Guildchat
2:42 PM	urbie	#guildchat A6 Some L&D turned off by amateur-ish n low cost maybe? I LOVE #appsmashing instructional design.
2:43 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5. How is non-learn tech used for learning received by leaders, L&D, learners in orgs? #GuildChat
2:43 PM	anchalmanocha	A6. Slow learner adoption of new technology may be a challenge at times. #guildchat
2:43 PM	Quinnovator	a6) fear, greed, or sloth; our great motivators ;) #guildchat
2:43 PM	JaneBozarth	Q5 Because people don’t like change very much? #guildchat I just cracked myself up.
2:43 PM	DonaldClark	A6 #guildchat Control – they want control. Too embedded in f2f behaviour. Don’t use it so don’t know what it can do – esp SOME
2:43 PM	urbie	#guildchat A6 Seriously.. You gotta see what teachers and students are doing with apps on iPad & Chromebooks.
2:43 PM	PatIngerick	A6) Fear of unknown, path less followed and all that. Fear of not meeting expectation of traditional learning. #GuildChat @eLearningGuild
2:44 PM	JD_Dillon	A6) This is what we’ve always used and I don’t want to let go of all that old content … #GuildChat
2:44 PM	britz	A6. Vendor brainwashing? #guildchat
2:44 PM	valarywithawhy	A6 No time to experiment with the new so they stick with what they know. :( Also fear of failure. #guildchat
2:44 PM	MathVermeulen	RT @Quinnovator: a6) fear, greed, or sloth; our great motivators ;) #guildchat
2:44 PM	urbie	#guildchat A6 That think about constraints driving creativity and innovation? When it’s your own money on the line you make it work. Word.
2:44 PM	PatIngerick	Control! Yes, that’s a killer. #GuildChat @Quinnovator
2:44 PM	sifowler	RT @PatIngerick: A6) Fear of unknown, path less followed and all that. Fear of not meeting expectation of traditional learning. #GuildCha…
2:44 PM	urbie	RT @Quinnovator: a6) need to control, lack of familiarity, comfort zone #guildchat
2:44 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A6) e-learning developers, who have the skill, knowledge & courage to think outside of the box, to try something different. #guildchat
2:45 PM	DonaldClark	A6 #guildchat HR now exists to protect organisations from its own employees. Tech subverts this, control lost – so they steer clear
2:45 PM	JD_Dillon	A6) My job description says I need to use …. #GuildChat
2:45 PM	CRobinsonKeys	RT @valarywithawhy: A6 No time to experiment with the new so they stick with what they know. :( Also fear of failure. #guildchat
2:45 PM	urbie	@anchalmanocha Us it really up to learners to adopt? Usually it’s whatever we put in front of them (not good). #guildchat
2:46 PM	sifowler	Gotta run … great to chat and see folk. Thanks @britz @elearningguild. Will put this in calendar & get back on the wagon. #guildchat
2:46 PM	britz	RT @JD_Dillon A6) My job description says I need to use …. #GuildChat / Very true!
2:46 PM	britz	@sifowler Excellent! Good to see you again Simon. #guildchat
2:46 PM	JaneBozarth	@chrisagiddings @Lectora @MathVermeulen Pinterest for L&D #guildchat
2:47 PM	eLearningGuild	Q7. How can we promote non-learning technology uses to solve performance problems? #GuildChat
2:47 PM	JD_Dillon	A6) L&D team never makes the time to explore bc we’re always so busy being useful RIGHT NOW … #GuildChat
2:47 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7. How can we promote non-learning technology uses to solve performance problems? #GuildChat
2:47 PM	PatIngerick	And learners display different levels of willingness to change. YIKES! #Guildchat @JaneBozarth
2:47 PM	DonaldClark	A6 #guildchat Obsession with everything being ‘social’ and ‘collaborative’ is now a major obstacle – born of naive social constructivism
2:48 PM	ChadSLowry	Q7) Not to steal this line from @JaneBozarth, but show your work. Let others see your success so they can ape you. #guildchat
2:48 PM	JD_Dillon	A7) Solve problems w/ it and share results openly w/ network #GuildChat https://t.co/ONbmKAjg9W
2:48 PM	MrMiNiKi	A6) your mindset? #guildchat
2:48 PM	JD_Dillon	A7) Connect the value of tech to problems/existing behaviors/research #GuildChat https://t.co/ONbmKAjg9W
2:48 PM	Quinnovator	a7) by evangelizing, modeling, documenting, coaching, rewarding, and other typical mechanisms of change #guildchat
2:48 PM	JaneBozarth	@PatIngerick ouch. #guildchat
2:48 PM	britz	A6. All-in-one tools suites seem to lock people’s minds up #guildchat
2:49 PM	PatIngerick	Someday we will all realize that the idea of having a job is declining and will be extinct soon. #GuildChat #GigWorld @JD_Dillon
2:49 PM	DonaldClark	A7 #guildchat Use it, show it, talk about it & don’t believe the scare stories
2:49 PM	JD_Dillon	A7) Challenge teams to play w/ new tech, regardless of source/intended use (YouTube was a dating site) #GuildChat https://t.co/ONbmKAjg9W
2:49 PM	tstarkey1212	RT @DonaldClark: A6 #guildchat Obsession with everything being ‘social’ and ‘collaborative’ is now a major obstacle – born of naive social …
2:49 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7. How can we promote non-learning technology uses to solve performance problems? #GuildChat
2:49 PM	britz	RT @DonaldClark A7 #guildchat Use it, show it, talk about it & don’t believe the scare stories
2:49 PM	MathVermeulen	A7. Share results in & outside your organisation, use Guild-events (DemoFest), … #Guildchat
2:49 PM	britz	RT @Quinnovator: a7) by evangelizing, modeling, documenting, coaching, rewarding, and other typical mechanisms of change #guildchat
2:49 PM	anchalmanocha	A7. Use tools to connect teams and experts previously not in touch. #guildchat
2:49 PM	JaneBozarth	RT @MathVermeulen: A7. Share results in & outside your organisation, use Guild-events (DemoFest), … #Guildchat
2:50 PM	JD_Dillon	A7) Use tech for its strengths, combine w/ other right-fit tools, adjust – don’t get stuck looking for PERFECT #GuildChat
2:50 PM	anchalmanocha	A7. Use of on the job support through communication forums. Seen that happen using Yammer. #guildchat
2:50 PM	JaneBozarth	@MathVermeulen there’s a live online demofest Aug 19/20. See you there? #guildchat
2:50 PM	CRobinsonKeys	A7) Clear cut examples of non-learning tech successfully filling a void or providing a tool that wasn’t otherwise available. #guildchat
2:50 PM	DonaldClark	A7 #guildchat Marketing! Brand it, advertise it, use trad marketing techniques & campaigns to encourage use
2:50 PM	valarywithawhy	A7 – Small wins a big megaphone #guildchat
2:51 PM	britz	A7. Explore a bit yourselves. Get out of your industry for a bit, see what is out there in industry, marketing, medicine, etc #guildchat
2:51 PM	britz	RT @valarywithawhy: A7 – Small wins a big megaphone #guildchat
2:51 PM	PatIngerick	A7) Use what you, as teacher use. If it works for you will work for learners. #GuildChat @eLearningGuild
2:51 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @britz: A7. Explore a bit yourselves. Get out of your industry for a bit, see what is out there in industry, marketing, medicine, etc #g…
2:51 PM	CRobinsonKeys	RT @britz: A7. Explore a bit yourselves. Get out of your industry for a bit, see what is out there in industry, marketing, medicine, etc #g…
2:51 PM	JaneBozarth	@MathVermeulen nice… See you at #devlearn, though? #guildchat
2:51 PM	JD_Dillon	A7) Use it yourself – communicate the value you find #GuildChat
2:51 PM	urbie	#guildchat A7 This: find something you like. Use it. Screw up til you get it right. Draft presentation proposals and submit to ATD, GUILD..
2:52 PM	anchalmanocha	A 7. Guess I got that question wrong initially. Spread success stories. Short personal stories of use may help. #guildchat
2:52 PM	britz	@valarywithawhy YES! Things can scale especially when others know of them! This is where openness is critical #guildchat
2:52 PM	urbie	RT @PatIngerick: A7) Use what you, as teacher use. If it works for you will work for learners. #GuildChat @eLearningGuild
2:52 PM	PatIngerick	And ask learners what they find helpful/applicable to them #GuildChat @DonaldClark
2:53 PM	anchalmanocha	RT @britz: A7. Explore a bit yourselves. Get out of your industry for a bit, see what is out there in industry, marketing, medicine, etc #g…
2:53 PM	eLearningGuild	We have a few minutes left, what other questions about this topic do you have? #GuildChat
2:53 PM	JaneBozarth	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7. How can we promote non-learning technology uses to solve performance problems? #GuildChat
2:53 PM	Quinnovator	a7) trojan mice: small experiments then then scale #guildchat
2:53 PM	valarywithawhy	@britz and helps you find champions to help boost visibility and support #guildchat
2:53 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: We have a few minutes left, what other questions about this topic do you have? #GuildChat
2:53 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7. How can we promote non-learning technology uses to solve performance problems? #GuildChat
2:53 PM	JaneBozarth	Q7. Solve a problem. #guildchat
2:53 PM	MrMiNiKi	Just wondering if this differs for managers and non-managers #guildchat https://t.co/IKCZCjlwZ0
2:54 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: We have a few minutes left, what other questions about this topic do you have? #GuildChat
2:54 PM	NancySlawski	Feeling a strong sense of deja vu as I lurk in today`s #Guildchat . Is it just me?
2:54 PM	PatIngerick	Can everyone share one example of non-learning tech they like and use? #GuildChat @eLearningGuild
2:55 PM	ChadSLowry	I think a good takeaway is that any tech might be used as learning tech, so keep an open mind. #guildchat
2:55 PM	urbie	Cool chat. To the person or persons behind the #guildchat curtain.. Many thanks.
2:55 PM	JaneBozarth	Q7 Got boss on board w Google Docs when I showed her how to reduce number of responses to an email w a shared doc.Solve a problem #guildchat
2:56 PM	britz	@urbie On behalf of the @elearningguild – Thx. glad you enjoyed the questions, the chatting was all abt the fine folks here tho #guildchat
2:56 PM	anchalmanocha	RT @ChadSLowry: I think a good takeaway is that any tech might be used as learning tech, so keep an open mind. #guildchat
2:57 PM	MrMiNiKi	@PatIngerick @eLearningGuild dare I say what we’re using right now? #guildchat
2:57 PM	unboxedtech	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7. How can we promote non-learning technology uses to solve performance problems? #GuildChat
2:57 PM	unboxedtech	RT @JaneBozarth: Q7 Got boss on board w Google Docs when I showed her how to reduce number of responses to an email w a shared doc.Solve a …
2:57 PM	unboxedtech	RT @Quinnovator: a7) trojan mice: small experiments then then scale #guildchat
2:57 PM	eLearningGuild	Join us next week for #GuildChat as we look at the Theories that inform our practices #elguild
2:57 PM	britz	RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we look at the Theories that inform our practices #elguild
2:57 PM	anchalmanocha	Thanks for conducting #guildchat! Does this happen every Friday? I just stumbled on it today.
2:58 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we look at the Theories that inform our practices #elguild
2:58 PM	urbie	#guildchat A sample of a non-learning app I use.. Autograph app on iPhone to celebrate project kick-offs. Engages. http://t.co/f86iZDYKFV
2:58 PM	vidyakumar	@PatIngerick @eLearningGuild #guildchat wearables and IOT
2:58 PM	britz	@anchalmanocha Yes. Every Friday at 2:00pm EDT – Thanks for stumbling in! :) #guildchat
2:59 PM	JD_Dillon	Thanks #GuildChat crew! Great to get back into my fav Twitter convos this week. Hope to cya at #DevLearn! Meantime – http://t.co/8xKUK5eqMk
2:59 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Join us next week for #GuildChat as we look at the Theories that inform our practices #elguild
2:59 PM	MrMiNiKi	@eLearningGuild thank you (and you) as always. #guildchat
2:59 PM	urbie	RT @PatIngerick: Can everyone share one example of non-learning tech they like and use? #GuildChat @eLearningGuild
2:59 PM	britz	@PatIngerick Evernote. Part of the learning equation for me is reflection. I can tag, annotate and write in Evernote. Invaluable #guildchat
3:00 PM	eLearningGuild	Thanks for joining #GuildChat everyone. See you next week!

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