#GuildChat for 04/10/2015: Designing for Mobile

Our next #GuildChat takes place Friday April 10th at 11am PT / 2pm ET. Our topic for this week’s chat is Designing for Mobile.

Smartphones are rapidly becoming the primary device through which people absorb content. They are also becoming the primary tools people use to solve problems in the moment. At the same time, the majority of instructional designers and developers in the learning space have skills that are based in desktop environments.

Chad Udell of Float Mobile Learning

In this week’s #GuildChat we welcome special guest Chad Udell from Float Mobile Learning. During the chat we’re going to explore the world of design in the context of mobile. We’ll discuss what makes the mobile world unique, and how those factors impact our design decisions. We’ll examine what “mobile learning” really means, and how that definition is changing. We’ll explore how we are using mobile devices for learning today, and how that may need to change in the near future.

Here are the questions currently scheduled to be posed during the chat.

Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was successful What made it work?
Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was a failure? What made it fail?
What’s different about designing learning experiences for mobile devices than would be the case designing for desktops?
What are the biggest barriers to quality mobile design?
What are some user experience considerations that need factored into mobile design?
Are there differences in the design of mobile “learning” and mobile “performance support”? If no, why not? If so, what are they?
Are responsive design and mobile design the same thing? Why or why not?

Chat Transcript

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2:04 PM	Learning_Dude	@visualrinse @elearningguild @floatlearning Hello, Chad! I’ve heard a lot about you from @spotlearning. ;) #guildchat
2:04 PM	JD_Dillon	Howdy, #GuildChat folks! JD in Orlando, FL. Learning geek w/ Kaplan, sad Flyers fan, sharer, and obvious Twitter chat addict.
2:05 PM	willconstantine	@visualrinse hi Chad! #GuildChat
2:05 PM	eLearningGuild	Q1) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was successful What made it work? #GuildChat
2:05 PM	technkl	Here to partake in #guildchat again, two weeks running, took me a bit to realize it was here regularly :-)
2:05 PM	technkl	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was successful What made it work? #GuildChat
2:05 PM	Learning_Dude	Hello, again. Stephen – Learning Strategist with @AnthemInc. Roanoke, Virginia, USA. http://t.co/YlGtewyfYv #guildchat
2:05 PM	tomspiglanin	Hi #GuildChat Tom Spiglanin, mobile today, participate as I can. Hope you are all well
2:05 PM	willconstantine	Will Constantine, LearnHaus http://t.co/ODAbM5i6rW food creator #GuildChat
2:06 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was successful What made it work? #GuildChat
2:06 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: Welcome to #GuildChat, brought to you by @eLearningGuild. Today we’re exploring Designing for Mobile.
2:06 PM	willconstantine	Using Waze app while driving to avoid traffic #GuildChat
2:06 PM	technkl	A1 mobile design is everywhere, in fact anythign that’s not designed for mobile has to be REALLY good for me to even give chance #guildchat
2:06 PM	AlwaysBreaking	Hi, Gary in California, ID and training department of one. Nice to see some familiar folks on #guildchat.
2:06 PM	visualrinse	a1) The commonly used big apps are well designed. Slideshare, Vine, Twitter, etc. Focusing on the user needs in their designs. #guildchat
2:06 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was successful What made it work? #GuildChat
2:07 PM	inkling	@elearningguild: I have a couple mobile designers on deck that are chiming in for @inkling! #GuildChat
2:07 PM	technkl	A1 and I must say they must be well designed for apps too, websites too, needs to be GREAT content if it’s poorly designed #guildchat
2:07 PM	JD_Dillon	A1) Popular mobile apps: meet specific user need, provides access to info/facilitate timely sharing #guildchat https://t.co/B02oUawu33
2:07 PM	MathVermeulen	RT @visualrinse: a1) The commonly used big apps are well designed. Slideshare, Vine, Twitter, etc. Focusing on the user needs in their desi…
2:08 PM	visualrinse	a1) Acknowledge good design is not just how it looks, but also how it works. Design is not merely decoration/ornamentation. #guildchat
2:08 PM	LnDDave	A1) I’m always impressed with how simple the design of amazon’s mobile app is, considering the depth of the offering. #GuildChat
2:08 PM	deacti_vate	A1) Apps that I use frequently, like Kindle & reddit sync & Vine – very simple apps #GuildChat
2:08 PM	Quinnovator	a1) @united app works (mostly ;): meets my travel needs: flight status, boarding pass, airport navigating #guildchat
2:08 PM	visualrinse	a1) I like to check out http://t.co/jMvB9szx7c (Design Pattern gallery) to see what trends are getting traction in mobile design. #guildchat
2:08 PM	JD_Dillon	A1) Event apps for @eLearningGuild – plenty of room to grow but MUCH better than most (focus on sharing, event info secondary) #guildchat
2:09 PM	Quinnovator	RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Event apps for @eLearningGuild – plenty of room to grow but MUCH better than most (focus on sharing, event info secondar…
2:09 PM	Learning_Dude	A1) I feel like intuitive is becoming a buzzword, too. The UI has to be clean, and just work. @Delta, @RepeatTimerPro #guildchat
2:09 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a1) Acknowledge good design is not just how it looks, but also how it works. Design is not merely decoration/ornamentation…
2:09 PM	Learning_Dude	RT @JD_Dillon: A1) Event apps for @eLearningGuild – plenty of room to grow but MUCH better than most (focus on sharing, event info secondar…
2:09 PM	JD_Dillon	A1) Specific example – @Flipboard – built for the mobile experience (phone/tablet), desktop entirely secondary #guildchat
2:09 PM	visualrinse	RT @LnDDave: A1) I’m always impressed with how simple the design of amazon’s mobile app is, considering the depth of the offering. #GuildCh…
2:09 PM	willconstantine	RT @visualrinse: a1) Acknowledge good design is not just how it looks, but also how it works. Design is not merely decoration/ornamentation…
2:10 PM	willconstantine	RT @visualrinse: a1) I like to check out http://t.co/jMvB9szx7c (Design Pattern gallery) to see what trends are getting traction in mobile …
2:10 PM	Learning_Dude	A1) I’m still not sure why some apps want to use my location data all time. #guildchat
2:10 PM	deacti_vate	A1) Apps that ask themselves “What is this person mostly going to be doing with our app” and make that front and center. #guildchat
2:10 PM	MathVermeulen	RT @visualrinse: a1) I like to check out http://t.co/jMvB9szx7c (Design Pattern gallery) to see what trends are getting traction in mobile …
2:10 PM	Quinnovator	a1) what makes ‘em work: meet my needs in ways that I expect #guildchat
2:10 PM	LnDDave	A1) Some of my favorite mobile designs come from games that really embrace the uniqueness of the mobile platform. #GuildChat
2:10 PM	JD_Dillon	A1) Another – @sunrise – my fav calendar app – tons of integration with other apps, info in once place to manage easily #guildchat
2:10 PM	Quinnovator	RT @Learning_Dude: A1) I’m still not sure why some apps want to use my location data all time. #guildchat < not for your benefit (hint)
2:10 PM	Learning_Dude	#confession: I’m literally crazy OCD about app icons. I’ll delete an app if I don’t like the icon. (Yeah, I know.) #guildchat
2:10 PM	technkl	@deacti_vate and I hope also makes other stuff available, nothing irritates me more than having to go to desktop to do a task #guildchat
2:10 PM	JD_Dillon	@Learning_Dude Data data data … #guildchat
2:11 PM	AlwaysBreaking	A1) My bank actually has a good mobile app. It doesn’t try to do too much, and meets me needs, with efficiency. #guildchat
2:11 PM	Learning_Dude	@JD_Dillon Data^3 = “Big Data,” right? OMG. #guildchat
2:11 PM	JD_Dillon	A1) Any app that is designed and continuously adapts to MY desired use – not the way it was MEANT to be used #guildchat
2:11 PM	LnDDave	@JD_Dillon And where do you see the growth opportunities in our apps? #GuildChat
2:11 PM	Learning_Dude	@visualrinse The @Starbucks app brings up an icon on the lock screen. It’s cool, and creepy. #guildchat
2:11 PM	Learning_Dude	@LnDDave @JD_Dillon Haha! I saw that coming. ;) #guildchat
2:12 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a1) I like to check out http://t.co/jMvB9szx7c (Design Pattern gallery) to see what trends are getting traction in mobile …
2:12 PM	visualrinse	The new Outlook app for iOS is quite nice… #guildchat
2:12 PM	technkl	@Learning_Dude @visualrinse @Starbucks many apps do if you’re near the store (home depot, costco, etc) #guildchat
2:12 PM	eLearningGuild	Q2) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was a failure? What made it fail? #GuildChat
2:12 PM	technkl	@visualrinse I’ve been using that exclusively for email, excellent app :-) #guildchat
2:12 PM	technkl	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was a failure? What made it fail? #GuildChat
2:13 PM	JD_Dillon	@LnDDave Simple example – photos taken in the #LSCon app don’t save to the device itself – missing integration #guildchat
2:13 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was a failure? What made it fail? #GuildChat
2:13 PM	visualrinse	a2) A lot of the early forays by banking sites and airlines were terrible, but they are getting much better. #guildchat
2:13 PM	Learning_Dude	@technkl @visualrinse I like it, but for several reasons I’m still stuck in the Mail app. #guildchat
2:13 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was a failure? What made it fail? #GuildChat
2:13 PM	Quinnovator	a2) games where the feature set didn’t match my goals #guildchat
2:13 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was a failure? What made it fail? #GuildChat
2:13 PM	visualrinse	a2) Not focusing on what people want and neglecting their needs in exchange for non-user stakeholder goals. #userknowsbest #guildchat
2:13 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) Apps that lean on direct links/views of standard websites – lazy design to just say “we have an app” #guildchat https://t.co/iu5G6f5d97
2:13 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) Apps that lean on direct links/views of standard websites – lazy design to just say “we have an app” #guildchat https://t.co/iu5G6f5d97
2:13 PM	visualrinse	a2) Putting non-user goals first is what creates epic failure in mobile design. #guildchat
2:13 PM	willconstantine	Q2) when the desktop experience has been mimicked in mobile…not good design #GuildChat
2:14 PM	technkl	A2 I’ve deleted too many apps that didn’t cut it to remember #guildchat
2:14 PM	deacti_vate	A2) Every single restaurant mobile site that doesn’t let me access their menu easily. #GuildChat So basically all of them.
2:14 PM	visualrinse	a2) For a ton of great examples on what not to do with mobile design check out the colorfully named: http://t.co/XipJMztEf8 #guildchat
2:14 PM	inkling	RT @willconstantine Q2) when the desktop experience has been mimicked in mobile…not good design #GuildChat
2:14 PM	Learning_Dude	Notwithstanding extremely buggy launches, an app that doesn’t sync across devices is a failure to me. #guildchat
2:14 PM	LnDDave	@JD_Dillon Or communication in some cases… In settings you have the option to save to device, but need to turn it on. #GuildChat
2:14 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) Apps that try to do to much/be everything to everyone – I use an app for a specific purpose #guildchat https://t.co/iu5G6f5d97
2:14 PM	willconstantine	Q2) when the design is not simple enough that there are too many layers or the process is not clear #GuildChat
2:14 PM	Learning_Dude	A2) When I think of failure, I’m reminded of what I want in an app. If it doesn’t have that, well… #guildchat
2:15 PM	JD_Dillon	@LnDDave Ah … Couldn’t find that! But I would have more suggestions – still MUCH improved even in past few months #guildchat
2:15 PM	technkl	A2 Apps that don’t let me do what I want to do with it because their design decided that I wouldn’t want to do that from mobile #guildchat
2:15 PM	willconstantine	RT @visualrinse: a2) For a ton of great examples on what not to do with mobile design check out the colorfully named: http://t.co/XipJMztEf…
2:15 PM	Learning_Dude	I noticed at #LSCon that the @DoubleDutch app drained my battery faster than any other app has…ever. (iPhone 6) #guildchat
2:15 PM	LnDDave	A2) Scan this QR Code so you can be taken to this website that isn’t at all mobile-friendly. #GuildChat
2:16 PM	LnDDave	@JD_Dillon Feel free to send me you list. :-) #GuildChat
2:16 PM	Learning_Dude	@LnDDave There was a QR code on the LCD of the super drink machine at @FirehouseSubs. My phone wouldn’t scan it. Doh. #guildchat
2:16 PM	willconstantine	Q2) when Open Table makes me go to an restaurants external site to view the menu which is scaled #GuildChat
2:16 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) Apps that stray too far between devices, shouldn’t be confused going from phone to tablet to desktop #guildchat https://t.co/iu5G6f5d97
2:16 PM	inkling	Q2) When mobile design isn’t device-agnostic—you should be able to do everything on your phone as your computer. #guildchat
2:16 PM	technkl	RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Apps that stray too far between devices, shouldn’t be confused going from phone to tablet to desktop #guildchat https:/…
2:16 PM	Paula_Moran	@technkl I hate that. Their regular website never works well on mobile either #guildchat
2:17 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a2) For a ton of great examples on what not to do with mobile design check out the colorfully named: http://t.co/XipJMztEf…
2:17 PM	Learning_Dude	Expectations. EXPECTATIONS! Look at what we’ve become. :P #guildchat
2:17 PM	visualrinse	Or, send a txt message to this number to get a hyperlink that could easily be shared via email or other means. @lnddave #GuildChat
2:17 PM	JD_Dillon	LOVE @OpenTable … #guildchat https://t.co/uCndeQsg0j
2:17 PM	Quinnovator	a2) apps that aren’t supported and don’t keep up with OS changes #guildchat
2:18 PM	Learning_Dude	I don’t want an app for every store and restaurant I like. Give me something uber useful / beneficial in the app. #guildchat
2:18 PM	deacti_vate	A2) When links are just text links and itty bitty. I have small fingers and that still doesn’t fly with me. I want buttons! #GuildChat
2:18 PM	Paula_Moran	A2) When adds or large images take up space and you have to scroll endlessly to see the content you came for #guildchat
2:18 PM	Learning_Dude	I hate retail apps that offer no incentive for download, use, etc. Why app when your website is mobile-ready? #guildchat
2:18 PM	Quinnovator	a2) apps that you’ve come to depend on that then are taken away #tweetdeck #guildchat @tweetdeck
2:19 PM	JD_Dillon	A2) Apps that don’t consider impact to the device – excessive battery drain, processing needs, etc. #guildchat https://t.co/iu5G6f5d97
2:19 PM	RISC_Inc	RT @eLearningGuild: Q1) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was successful What made it work? #GuildChat
2:19 PM	Learning_Dude	A2) Apps that forget less is more. It’s a phone. The screen is small. I flick, pinch and zoom. Did you forget that? #guildchat
2:19 PM	RISC_Inc	RT @visualrinse: a1) Acknowledge good design is not just how it looks, but also how it works. Design is not merely decoration/ornamentation…
2:19 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @Quinnovator: a2) apps that aren’t supported and don’t keep up with OS changes #guildchat
2:19 PM	inkling	Q2) When typeface hasn’t been considered—zooming in to view text isn’t a good experience. #guildchat
2:19 PM	eLearningGuild	Q3) What’s different about designing learning experiences for mobile devices than would be the case designing for desktops? #GuildChat
2:19 PM	technkl	RT @Cennydd: “It looks like you’re on a train. Would you like me to show you the insultingly simplified mobile site?” < this=bad #guildchat
2:19 PM	VeronicaThomp	A2) I feel Mobile designs that try to continue to use multi-column layouts are a failure. Content should resize for easy reading #GuildChat
2:19 PM	Quinnovator	RT @JD_Dillon: A2) Apps that don’t consider impact to the device – excessive battery drain, processing needs, etc. #guildchat https://t.co…
2:19 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3) What’s different about designing learning experiences for mobile devices than would be the case designing for deskt…
2:19 PM	technkl	RT Q3) What’s different about designing learning experiences for mobile devices than would be the case designing for desktops? #GuildChat
2:20 PM	AlwaysBreaking	A2) The date/time selector in iOS is a horrible mobile experience. I hate making calendar appoints on my phone. #guildchat
2:20 PM	willconstantine	@JD_Dillon @OpenTable It is a great app but I hate when the restaurant doesn’t upload a menu #GuildChat
2:20 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3) What’s different about designing learning experiences for mobile devices than would be the case designing for deskt…
2:20 PM	Quinnovator	a3) hiding away complexity but making it accessible (elegantly) is more critical #guildchat
2:20 PM	Learning_Dude	@eLearningGuild Mobile opens a world of opportunity for rich experiences: sensors, location data, push notifications. #guildchat
2:20 PM	inkling	Q3) Mobile learners need highly-searchable information to access on-the-go #guildchat
2:20 PM	Learning_Dude	@AlwaysBreaking I have to agree with you. It makes me sad. #guildchat
2:20 PM	Quinnovator	a3) taking advantage of context; leveraging where/when you are to your benefit #guildchat
2:21 PM	technkl	A3 Don’t oversimplify what it can do, but do simplify how you do it #guildchat
2:21 PM	willconstantine	Q3) Well for one, the physical device and how that is used such as preferred position. Landscape or portrait… #GuildChat
2:21 PM	inkling	RT @Learning_Dude Mobile opens a world of opportunity for rich experiences: sensors, location data, push notifications. #guildchat
2:21 PM	JD_Dillon	A3) It should be a small list given the need to enable access based on the user’s work habits #guildchat https://t.co/E0rW2lYEB7
2:21 PM	Quinnovator	a3) minimalism (the Least Assistance Principle) #guildchat
2:21 PM	visualrinse	a3) mlearning design is more about creating channels of information than it is about creating cognitive artifacts. #guildchat
2:21 PM	LnDDave	A2) Lots of apps abuse certain functions, suchg as sending notifications for notification’s sake. #GuildChat
2:21 PM	Quinnovator	a3) focus on tool use, not on content dump #guildchat
2:21 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3) What’s different about designing learning experiences for mobile devices than would be the case designing for deskt…
2:21 PM	Learning_Dude	A3) Mobile learners are often learning on-the-go. The ability to start-stop-pick up where you left off is critical. #guildchat
2:21 PM	RISC_Inc	RT @visualrinse: a2) For a ton of great examples on what not to do with mobile design check out the colorfully named: http://t.co/XipJMztEf…
2:21 PM	visualrinse	a3) You are usually creating something to be used in context, not a standalone or artificial construct (classroom, etc). #guildchat
2:21 PM	willconstantine	Q3) effective simplicity #GuildChat
2:21 PM	AmyFranko	Hello everyone, Amy Franko from Impact Instruction. Joining the #guildchat a bit late, but love the convo so far!
2:21 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a3) mlearning design is more about creating channels of information than it is about creating cognitive artifacts. #guildc…
2:22 PM	VeronicaThomp	A3) Mobile learners are often in busy/loud environments. Content needs to be short and easily processed on the go #GuildChat
2:22 PM	JD_Dillon	A3) Share content that can be experienced wherever user wishes – unless we have noteworthy constraints #guildchat https://t.co/E0rW2lYEB7
2:22 PM	inkling	@Quinnovator Totally agree—need to design for mobile learners based where they are/what they’re doing #guildchat
2:22 PM	technkl	A3 make it quick and micro, or macroly-micro so it can help you then get out of your way #guildchat
2:22 PM	RISC_Inc	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3) What’s different about designing learning experiences for mobile devices than would be the case designing for deskt…
2:22 PM	inkling	RT @VeronicaThomp A3) Mobile learners are often in busy environments. Content needs to be short and easily processed on the go #GuildChat
2:22 PM	MathVermeulen	RT @visualrinse: a2) For a ton of great examples on what not to do with mobile design check out the colorfully named: http://t.co/XipJMztEf…
2:22 PM	LnDDave	A3) People tend to focus on the interfaces and screen sizes, losing track of the most important difference: The mobility of user. #GuildChat
2:22 PM	RISC_Inc	RT @visualrinse: a3) mlearning design is more about creating channels of information than it is about creating cognitive artifacts. #guildc…
2:22 PM	JD_Dillon	A3) My mobile content behaviors extend to my desktop – its about me, not the device/content #guildchat
2:23 PM	deacti_vate	A3) Ask what is the type of learning that people would pull out their phones for? #GuildChat
2:23 PM	AlwaysBreaking	A3) For me mobile is more about supporting job performance, not necessarily about learning. #guildchat
2:23 PM	Quinnovator	a3) extending the learning experience, not delivering it #guildchat
2:23 PM	JD_Dillon	A3) I don’t suddenly like longer videos when I’m at my desk – I want bite-sized, specific content regardless of device #guildchat
2:23 PM	Learning_Dude	RT @Quinnovator: a3) extending the learning experience, not delivering it #guildchat
2:23 PM	willconstantine	Q3) to your point @visualrinse their needs to be a specific use case for something #GuildChat
2:23 PM	Quinnovator	RT @AlwaysBreaking: A3) For me mobile is more about supporting job performance, not necessarily about learning. #guildchat < that
2:24 PM	AlwaysBreaking	RT @JD_Dillon: A3) I don’t suddenly like longer videos when I’m at my desk – I want bite-sized, specific content regardless of device #guil…
2:24 PM	inkling	RT @AlwaysBreaking: A3) For me mobile is more about supporting job performance, not necessarily about learning. #guildchat
2:24 PM	willconstantine	@JD_Dillon user preference #GuildChat
2:24 PM	visualrinse	RT @Quinnovator: RT @AlwaysBreaking: A3) For me mobile is more about supporting job performance, not necessarily about learning. #guildchat…
2:24 PM	LnDDave	A3) Desktop design is most often about learning; mobile design should most often be about doing; it solves a problem. #GuildChat
2:24 PM	Learning_Dude	Plan for 1/2 my attention. I may pull up your app while on the train, listening to music, and eating something. #guildchat
2:24 PM	deacti_vate	RT @LnDDave: A3) Desktop design is most often about learning; mobile design should most often be about doing; it solves a problem. #GuildCh…
2:24 PM	MathVermeulen	RT @Quinnovator: RT @AlwaysBreaking: A3) For me mobile is more about supporting job performance, not necessarily about learning. #guildchat…
2:25 PM	LnDDave	RT @AlwaysBreaking: A3) For me mobile is more about supporting job performance, not necessarily about learning. #guildchat
2:25 PM	willconstantine	Q3) performance is the key, which means designed to be used in performance for the user #GuildChat
2:25 PM	Learning_Dude	I don’t necessarily want to share everything. I might actually need to solve a problem. Help me with that first. #guildchat
2:25 PM	RISC_Inc	RT @visualrinse: a3) You are usually creating something to be used in context, not a standalone or artificial construct (classroom, etc). #…
2:25 PM	technkl	A3 don’t make me think too hard, I want to do my job not mess around. Wait, do that on desktop too #guildchat
2:25 PM	saltalib	RT @Quinnovator: RT @AlwaysBreaking: A3) For me mobile is more about supporting job performance, not necessarily about learning. #guildchat…
2:26 PM	eLearningGuild	Q4) What are the biggest barriers to quality mobile design? #GuildChat
2:26 PM	technkl	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4) What are the biggest barriers to quality mobile design? #GuildChat
2:26 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4) What are the biggest barriers to quality mobile design? #GuildChat
2:26 PM	willconstantine	Q3) The need must be specific #GuildChat
2:26 PM	RISC_Inc	Sitting in on #guildchat for the first time with guest @visualrinse sharing insights about #mobile learning!
2:26 PM	visualrinse	a4) Trying to cram too much into an experience is a big fail. Creating a mobile experience that tries to do too much. #guildchat
2:26 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a3) You are usually creating something to be used in context, not a standalone or artificial construct (classroom, etc). #…
2:26 PM	Quinnovator	a4) desktop mindsets #guildchat
2:26 PM	technkl	A4 for org it’s access to information, removing barriers to search, can you even access org info? #guildchat
2:26 PM	Quinnovator	RT @visualrinse: a4) Trying to cram too much into an experience is a big fail. Creating a mobile experience that tries to do too much. #gui…
2:27 PM	AmyFranko	A3) My Nike Training Center app is an example, only use it on phone, no other device. Short videos, audio cues, when I need it. #guildchat
2:27 PM	inkling	Q4) Too often people take existing desktop design & shoehorn it into mobile #guildchat
2:27 PM	Quinnovator	a4) ‘bigger is better’ rather than ‘least assistance necessary’ #guildchat
2:27 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4) What are the biggest barriers to quality mobile design? #GuildChat
2:27 PM	LnDDave	A3) Desktop focuses on how we interact with content; mobile should focus on how we interact with the environment. #GuildChat
2:27 PM	Quinnovator	RT @LnDDave: A3) Desktop focuses on how we interact with content; mobile should focus on how we interact with the environment. #GuildChat
2:27 PM	SimonBlairTrain	A4: What about platform differences? #guildchat
2:27 PM	Learning_Dude	A4) Security, although I consider it a copout. I recently heard this, “Phones are just computers in your pocket.” #guildchat
2:27 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a4) Trying to cram too much into an experience is a big fail. Creating a mobile experience that tries to do too much. #gui…
2:27 PM	visualrinse	a4) Thinking that it needs to be “perfect” on initial release will prevent you from having any release at all. #shipit #guildchat
2:27 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4) What are the biggest barriers to quality mobile design? #GuildChat
2:27 PM	PatriceKiraly	RT @Quinnovator: a3) taking advantage of context; leveraging where/when you are to your benefit #guildchat
2:27 PM	deacti_vate	A4) It’s still new and evolving. Not everyone has smartphones/tablets just yet, or use them in the workplace. #GuildChat
2:28 PM	JD_Dillon	A4) Course mentality – we are most experienced w/ designing for traditional instructional delivery #guildchat https://t.co/V7wFaBAHLr
2:28 PM	willconstantine	Q4) the design itself can be a barrier to the user if they cannot access information they need #GuildChat
2:28 PM	LnDDave	A4) The willingness to divert from that which we think we know. #GuildChat
2:28 PM	AlwaysBreaking	A4) Feeling required to do something with mobile learning. You can’t force it, it has to be a natural fit. #guildchat.
2:28 PM	lisaMinogueW	RT @visualrinse: a4) Trying to cram too much into an experience is a big fail. Creating a mobile experience that tries to do too much. #gui…
2:28 PM	JD_Dillon	A4) Device access/permission – some orgs just don’t use/enable mobile as a delivery option #guildchat https://t.co/V7wFaBAHLr
2:28 PM	visualrinse	a4) Using tired old methods like stakeholder driven design as opposed to user centric gets you software that no one uses. #guildchat
2:28 PM	Quinnovator	a4) not thinking ‘platform’ (and getting blindsided by the reality) #guildchat
2:28 PM	willconstantine	Q4) mobile content = absolute necessity #GuildChat
2:28 PM	Paula_Moran	@inkling I agree, just like elearning can’t be a re-creation of F2F learning. #guildchat
2:29 PM	deacti_vate	A4) A lot of variation in what they can run. Developing an iOS app is fairly different from Android. #GuildChat
2:29 PM	JD_Dillon	A4) Laziness – mobile REQUIRES iterative approach and continued evolution to keep up with tech #guildchat https://t.co/V7wFaBAHLr
2:29 PM	Quinnovator	a4) “it has to be an app” #guildchat
2:29 PM	LnDDave	A4) The willingness to develop skills to play in a space that we may not be equipped to play in. #GuildChat
2:29 PM	deacti_vate	.@JD_Dillon Laziness or lack of resources? #guildchat
2:29 PM	technkl	RT @Quinnovator: a4) “it has to be an app” #guildchat < yes, bad mindset
2:29 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4) What are the biggest barriers to quality mobile design? #GuildChat
2:30 PM	Quinnovator	a4) (channeling @JD_Dillon) if we build it, it is good #guildchat
2:30 PM	SimonBlairTrain	Isn’t that a good idea everywhere? #guildchat https://t.co/RsSKF3amnD
2:30 PM	AmyFranko	A4) New and different ways of thinking to get there. Need to push ourselves to not do the same old thing. #guildchat
2:30 PM	JD_Dillon	@SimonBlairTrain Of course, but even more difficult to get away with in a BYOD world (where IT doesn’t dictate OS and what not) #guildchat
2:30 PM	lisaMinogueW	A4) mobile just as a shrink washed e-learning rather than considering when and why you’d go to mobile to support learning #guildchat
2:30 PM	willconstantine	@visualrinse it would actually be better to get it into the user’s hands at that stage. User-based evaluation is huge #GuildChat
2:30 PM	VeronicaThomp	Q4) touch screen interactions are tricky. Swipe interaction can conflict with readability improvements like scrolling tables/math #GuildChat
2:30 PM	Paula_Moran	A4) if we ask our employees w/o company issued phones to use mobile we might be required to pay part of their bills #guildchat
2:31 PM	LnDDave	A4) The historic pattern of using new technologies to implement outdated methodologies. #GuildChat
2:31 PM	AmyFranko	RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Laziness – mobile REQUIRES iterative approach and continued evolution to keep up with tech #guildchat https://t.co/V7wF…
2:31 PM	JD_Dillon	@deacti_vate Sometimes lazy, sometimes lack of prioritization (which can also be caused by laziness) #guildchat
2:31 PM	SimonBlairTrain	Hadn’t thought of that. #guildchat https://t.co/BryvWxDnr1
2:31 PM	visualrinse	RT @LnDDave: A4) The historic pattern of using new technologies to implement outdated methodologies. #GuildChat
2:31 PM	visualrinse	RT @lisaMinogueW: A4) mobile just as a shrink washed e-learning rather than considering when and why you’d go to mobile to support learnin…
2:31 PM	willconstantine	Q4) A mobile web-based solution could be better than an “app” It’s not all about apps #GuildChat
2:31 PM	russellshearer	RT @VeronicaThomp: Q4) touch screen interactions are tricky. Swipe interaction can conflict with readability improvements like scrolling ta…
2:32 PM	technkl	@Paula_Moran most employees are willing to freely use their device if it makes their job better, hence BYOD is so huge #guildchat
2:32 PM	SimonBlairTrain	@LnDDave Is that why YouTube has commercials? :-) #guildchat
2:32 PM	JD_Dillon	A4) Bad policy – like IT requiring ability to wipe your device whenever they feel like it (or no access) #guildchat https://t.co/V7wFaBAHLr
2:32 PM	technkl	@JD_Dillon horrible policy, won’t use my device if that’s the case, they lose both way #guildchat
2:32 PM	LnDDave	A4) The focus on making content accessible on mobile instead of embracing what makes mobile different. #GuildChat
2:32 PM	technkl	RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Bad policy – like IT requiring ability to wipe your device whenever they feel like it (or no access) #guildchat https:/…
2:32 PM	JD_Dillon	@technkl Yup … no Google apps for me … #guildchat
2:32 PM	russellshearer	.@VeronicaThomp and it is important to not hijack any user-expected interactions (i.e. scroll) #guildchat
2:33 PM	Paula_Moran	@technkl That may be case in many orgs, but it prevents mobile from being introduced in mine #guildchat
2:33 PM	LnDDave	RT @SimonBlairTrain: @LnDDave Is that why YouTube has commercials? :-) #guildchat < Partly, yes.
2:33 PM	inkling	A4) Lack of resources to design for ALL mobile devices #guildchat
2:33 PM	willconstantine	Q4) really find out what people are using on the job even if it’s not your solution. Identify what the user’s needs are. #GuildChat
2:33 PM	lisaMinogueW	RT @LnDDave: A4) The focus on making content accessible on mobile instead of embracing what makes mobile different. #GuildChat
2:33 PM	technkl	@Paula_Moran if it’s required you use your device then have to pay, make it an option, no pay, no barrier :-) #guildchat
2:33 PM	AlwaysBreaking	#guildchat @LnDDave A4) Well said. Designing content for mobile is still a new skill set.
2:33 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @LnDDave: A4) The focus on making content accessible on mobile instead of embracing what makes mobile different. #GuildChat
2:34 PM	VeronicaThomp	@russellshearer Yes, changing expected interactions too much will confuse readers and make the experience more frustrating #GuildChat
2:34 PM	JD_Dillon	A4) Deciding to “go mobile” without having any idea what that means or how it impacts user experience #guildchat
2:34 PM	eLearningGuild	Q5) What are some user experience considerations that need factored into mobile design? #GuildChat
2:34 PM	technkl	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5) What are some user experience considerations that need factored into mobile design? #GuildChat
2:35 PM	willconstantine	Q4) you don’t have the best tools to create the “best” solution. A picture of the job aid is more effective than shiny #GuildChat
2:35 PM	eLearnCorp	A3) this is the new complexity for designers that is equal to designing for the many young browsers back in the mid / late 90s #guildchat
2:35 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5) What are some user experience considerations that need factored into mobile design? #GuildChat
2:35 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5) What are some user experience considerations that need factored into mobile design? #GuildChat
2:35 PM	technkl	A5 tiny screens, big fingers, sometimes they don’t mix #guildchat
2:35 PM	visualrinse	a5) Does your UI get out of the way to let the user get their tasks completed in the app/site? #guildchat
2:35 PM	Paula_Moran	@technkl I get that, but making it optional prevents me from fully integrating into my learning ecosystem #guildchat
2:35 PM	willconstantine	Q5) function for sure, but what about design affordances? #GuildChat
2:35 PM	VeronicaThomp	A5) Users may have limited or spotty access to networks and internet. Quick load times and caching are essential for mobile #GuildChat
2:35 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5) What are some user experience considerations that need factored into mobile design? #GuildChat
2:36 PM	inkling	A5) Consider the number of clicks and swipes that it takes for your users to get to the content they need. #guildchat
2:36 PM	lisaMinogueW	A4) think too much about consuming learning whilst forgetting mobile content creation abilities (video, connect with forums etc) #guildchat
2:36 PM	visualrinse	a5) Can your experience give meaningful interaction and/or content in short, intermittent bursts? #guildchat
2:36 PM	JustRogering	@eLearningGuild Hi All A5) readability #guildchat
2:36 PM	LnDDave	A5) Where will my audience be when they are accessing the content; what will they be doing? #GuildChat
2:36 PM	Quinnovator	a5) that it will work quickly, no delays #guildchat
2:36 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a5) Does your UI get out of the way to let the user get their tasks completed in the app/site? #guildchat
2:36 PM	urbie	#guildchat A1 Mobile design in the wild? Yes. Realistic surroundings made it work. Permission from all involved to get dirty was key.
2:37 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q2) Where have you seen mobile design “in the wild” that was a failure? What made it fail? #GuildChat
2:37 PM	willconstantine	Q5) how they use the mobile solution within the context of the job workflow not just on the job. Logical and practical. #GuildChat
2:37 PM	Quinnovator	a5) that it will tolerate intermittent connectivity #guildchat
2:37 PM	Quinnovator	a5) that I can use it while standing or walking #guildchat
2:37 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @visualrinse: a5) Does your UI get out of the way to let the user get their tasks completed in the app/site? #guildchat
2:37 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a5) Can your experience give meaningful interaction and/or content in short, intermittent bursts? #guildchat
2:37 PM	technkl	@Paula_Moran mobile shouldn’t be a required part of it though, just a great benefit if done right ppl will want to use device #guildchat
2:37 PM	AlwaysBreaking	A5) For me, really small touch/swipe targets are frustrating. Design touch interactions for all sizes of thumbs/fingers #guildchat
2:37 PM	SimonBlairTrain	@Quinnovator Or eating. #guildchat
2:37 PM	Quinnovator	a5) that it won’t kill my battery #guildchat
2:37 PM	inkling	A5) Click real estate. Buttons and links need to be big, spaced apart, and easily identified from other buttons/links. #guildchat
2:37 PM	JD_Dillon	A5) Consistent UI design across apps – don’t make me figure your app out TOO much #guildchat https://t.co/dhShyqUBtY
2:38 PM	urbie	#guildchat A2 Mobile design in the wild that failed? For me that’s the art museum device you listen to. Is that all there is?
2:38 PM	visualrinse	a5) Is the information design “glanceable”? #guildchat
2:38 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q3) What’s different about designing learning experiences for mobile devices than would be the case designing for deskt…
2:38 PM	floatlearning	RT @JD_Dillon: A4) Deciding to “go mobile” without having any idea what that means or how it impacts user experience #guildchat
2:38 PM	Quinnovator	RT @SimonBlairTrain: @Quinnovator Or eating. #guildchat < :)
2:38 PM	AmyFranko	Q5) Varying levels of mobile acumen, access to technology. #guildchat
2:38 PM	technkl	A5 does it have a purpose? A user experience is bad if it doesn’t provide benefits beyond work it takes to use #guildchat
2:38 PM	willconstantine	Q5) Should not be spending 15 minutes in the solution to find the answer they need. It should be obvious to the user #GuildChat
2:38 PM	visualrinse	RT @JD_Dillon: A5) Consistent UI design across apps – don’t make me figure your app out TOO much #guildchat https://t.co/dhShyqUBtY
2:38 PM	inkling	RT @visualrinse: a5) Can your experience give meaningful interaction and/or content in short, intermittent bursts? #guildchat
2:38 PM	JD_Dillon	A5) How will your app impact my device overall? Battery, notification, access needs, etc. #guildchat https://t.co/dhShyqUBtY
2:38 PM	lisaMinogueW	A5) biggest user consideration? Give them some consideration in the first place! What part does mobile play on their ecosystem? #guildchat
2:38 PM	Quinnovator	a5) that I don’t have to drill down lots of levels to get what I need (or, most frequent things are easy) #guildchat
2:39 PM	LnDDave	A5) Will the audience have reliable data access or does the content need to be completely local to the device? #GuildChat
2:39 PM	AmyFranko	A5) Availability/time to dedicate. See this in retail where time is very limited with associates. #guildchat
2:39 PM	urbie	#guildchat A3 Desktop and many laptops: you’re anchored to a desk, power receptacle, or wi-fi access point. Mobile you’re, well, mobile.
2:39 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q4) What are the biggest barriers to quality mobile design? #GuildChat
2:39 PM	LnDDave	RT @JD_Dillon: A5) How will your app impact my device overall? Battery, notification, access needs, etc. #guildchat https://t.co/dhShyqUBtY
2:39 PM	technkl	A5 that search is front and center and easy to use, don’t make me hunt or try an figure out your organization methods #guildchat
2:39 PM	urbie	#guildchat A4 Not much out there yet. It’s like pioneer days. In K-12 did you take Oregon Trail? It’s like that except on a watch.
2:40 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q5) What are some user experience considerations that need factored into mobile design? #GuildChat
2:40 PM	SimonBlairTrain	If everybody (web, desktop, hardware, appliances) did that, the world would be a better place. #guildchat #UX https://t.co/Q0pw4L5qdI
2:40 PM	VeronicaThomp	A5) How easy is it for mobile readers to return to the content and find their place? Bookmarks and Hand-off are a huge help #GuildChat
2:40 PM	inkling	RT @VeronicaThomp: A5) How easy is it for mobile readers to return to the content and find their place? Bookmarks and Hand-off are a huge h…
2:40 PM	willconstantine	Q5) Do NOT put mobile on an LMS! Like getting into the Pentagon #GuildChat
2:41 PM	AmyFranko	A5) Always coming back to the purpose and what we want to accomplish. simplicity. visual design. #guildchat
2:41 PM	urbie	#guildchat A5 Squint is the heavy hitter for me. Is reading on a tiny screen involved? Hope not. Morse code haptic on my wrist? Nooo.
2:41 PM	eLearningGuild	Q6) Are there differences in the design of mobile “learning” and mobile “performance support”? If so, what are they? #GuildChat
2:41 PM	LnDDave	A5) Who owns the device? What I’m willing to download/install may be different if I’m accessing the experience via my own device. #GuildChat
2:41 PM	lisaMinogueW	RT @AmyFranko: A5) Always coming back to the purpose and what we want to accomplish. simplicity. visual design. #guildchat
2:41 PM	technkl	RT Q6) Are there differences in the design of mobile “learning” and mobile “performance support”? If so, what are they? #GuildChat
2:41 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6) Are there differences in the design of mobile “learning” and mobile “performance support”? If so, what are they? #G…
2:42 PM	JD_Dillon	A5) Remember who I am … no continuous logins please … #guildchat
2:42 PM	AjayPangarkar	crap, how did I miss #guildchat? bad on me, sorry I’m late #guildchat
2:42 PM	visualrinse	A5) #GuildChat http://t.co/1Dt43gta2Q
2:42 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6) Are there differences in the design of mobile “learning” and mobile “performance support”? If so, what are they? #G…
2:42 PM	AmyFranko	@willconstantine Well said, not putting mobile on the LMS. #guildchat
2:42 PM	JD_Dillon	A6) Could be … but users ultimately decide how to use content, and they may apply either direction #guildchat https://t.co/6EUW9X7VMi
2:42 PM	LnDDave	A6) I’d argue that mobile design should focus on performance support first, and learning second. #GuildChat
2:42 PM	urbie	@visualrinse #guildchat mhm Where’s the killer app? My context is designing mobile learning.
2:43 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6) Are there differences in the design of mobile “learning” and mobile “performance support”? If so, what are they? #G…
2:43 PM	visualrinse	a6) I would prefer not to create walls or boundaries around what experiences are or not called. #guildchat
2:43 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q6) Are there differences in the design of mobile “learning” and mobile “performance support”? If so, what are they? #G…
2:43 PM	willconstantine	Q6) I think they are both used on the job. It’s possible that mobile learning becomes mobile performance support #GuildChat
2:43 PM	technkl	A6 they’re one in the same, hopefully you learn something from the PS but they both need to be useful at time of need #guildchat
2:43 PM	Quinnovator	a6) performance support is about doing the job, learning is about changing the learner (but they’re not mutually exclusive) #guildchat
2:44 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a6) I would prefer not to create walls or boundaries around what experiences are or not called. #guildchat
2:44 PM	visualrinse	a6) I think that learning is becoming working and working is becoming learning, so I suppose I would say no. #guildchat
2:44 PM	Quinnovator	RT @LnDDave: A6) I’d argue that mobile design should focus on performance support first, and learning second. #GuildChat < agreed
2:44 PM	visualrinse	RT @Quinnovator: RT @LnDDave: A6) I’d argue that mobile design should focus on performance support first, and learning second. #GuildChat <…
2:44 PM	willconstantine	@visualrinse Agree. It’s all part of the process not defined sections. #GuildChat
2:44 PM	AlwaysBreaking	RT @LnDDave: A6) I’d argue that mobile design should focus on performance support first, and learning second. #GuildChat
2:45 PM	LnDDave	@visualrinse At the same time, I think distinctions sometimes help people see and look past the walls that are already there. #GuildChat
2:45 PM	AjayPangarkar	a6) the term “perf. support” is very broad and leads to mus-interpretation and unique to each org, learning effort #guildchat
2:45 PM	Quinnovator	@visualrinse reckon times when it doesn’t make sense to learn (many product features changing too fast), look up instead! #guildchat
2:45 PM	urbie	#guildchat A6 The stuff I’ve seen is reference type stuff for learning. The performance support stuff is flat. I’d like a little pizzazz.
2:45 PM	technkl	What does mobile “learning” mean anyway? I read an article and I learn something, I use GPS & I learn new route #guildchat
2:45 PM	JD_Dillon	A6) Can always design to support both – deliver content in multiple ways depending on context #guildchat
2:45 PM	Quinnovator	a6) believe info ‘in the head’ or ‘in the world’ is continuum, find the right balance is key #guildchat
2:46 PM	AjayPangarkar	RT @technkl: What does mobile “learning” mean anyway? I read an article and I learn something, I use GPS & I learn new route #guildchat
2:46 PM	JustRogering	@eLearningGuild Q6) What is required to be reported back and what we choose to measure. #GuildChat
2:46 PM	AmyFranko	A6) Not convinced our audiences will necessarily make a distinction b/t mobile learning and mobile performance support. #guildchat
2:46 PM	VeronicaThomp	A6) Learning needs explanation and in-depth experiences to boost retention. Meaningful interactives and examples are a must #GuildChat
2:46 PM	AjayPangarkar	RT @AmyFranko: A6) Not convinced our audiences will necessarily make a distinction b/t mobile learning and mobile performance support. #gui…
2:46 PM	willconstantine	Q6) if we think about what mobile wants, it just wants to be used by you #sweetdreams #GuildChat
2:46 PM	technkl	@AmyFranko pretty sure they won’t :-) the different is minimal at best, what L&D thinks of learning has no place in mobile lol #guildchat
2:46 PM	Quinnovator	@technkl tho do you learn new route? Sometimes yes, sometimes still want GPS next time (doesn’t teach you, just gets you there) #guildchat
2:47 PM	lisaMinogueW	@LnDDave – go as far as saying performance support, LCG content on the fly, communities & videos/podcasts before e-learning #guildchat
2:47 PM	floatlearning	RT @visualrinse: a6) I think that learning is becoming working and working is becoming learning, so I suppose I would say no. #guildchat
2:47 PM	technkl	@Quinnovator teaching isn’t purpose but it does teach. I learn route but still like GPS, then I don’t have to pay attention lol #guildchat
2:48 PM	eLearningGuild	Q7) Are responsive design and mobile design the same thing? Why or why not? #GuildChat
2:48 PM	AlwaysBreaking	A6) @visualrinse summed it up. Don’t call it “learning”. Just give them tools to help them. #guildchat
2:48 PM	inkling	A6) @Learning_Dude says mLearning is mobile apps designed to teach; performance support is mobile access: https://t.co/dbNiDAW2bg #guildchat
2:48 PM	AjayPangarkar	a6) in my expeirnece with Fortune 50’s, mobile perf. support is the rage, learning not so much, but learning is in the perf supp #guildchat
2:48 PM	technkl	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7) Are responsive design and mobile design the same thing? Why or why not? #GuildChat
2:48 PM	Quinnovator	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7) Are responsive design and mobile design the same thing? Why or why not? #GuildChat
2:48 PM	technkl	@Quinnovator GPS taught me how to get to wife’s parents house, I know how now but still use GPS bcause it’s easier #guildchat
2:49 PM	willconstantine	Q6) First mobile is learning and then becomes PS, no need to create two different solutions for different stages of the journey #GuildChat
2:49 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7) Are responsive design and mobile design the same thing? Why or why not? #GuildChat
2:49 PM	technkl	A7 no, they’re not the same & they have different goals #guildchat
2:49 PM	LnDDave	@visualrinse Training still has value to prepare people in advance of work; does mobile have a place in that space in your mind? #GuildChat
2:49 PM	Quinnovator	a7) Not the same. Can design for use across form factors w/ responsive, but sometimes want to design specifically to device #guildchat
2:49 PM	urbie	@visualrinse #guildchat my shtick is transformational learning. How do we make the experience more engaging? I’m most familiar with iOS 1/2
2:49 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7) Are responsive design and mobile design the same thing? Why or why not? #GuildChat
2:49 PM	visualrinse	a7) Mobile design is a strategy, a mindset/school of thought put to practice. Responsive design is a tactic, a tool. #guildchat
2:49 PM	AjayPangarkar	a7) not sure why this quesiton is asked? They are different #guildchat
2:50 PM	LnDDave	A7) Responsive design is about having content display appropriately to each device; mobile design is more about the experience. #GuildChat
2:50 PM	JD_Dillon	A7) Overlapping design considerations but not the SAME thing (at least in my opinion) #guildchat https://t.co/g2EFxFSSxA
2:50 PM	AjayPangarkar	a7) uhhhh…apples, oranges? #guildchat
2:50 PM	pmcds	@technkl A6 “learning” has to be user experience; “performance support” has to be what is done to maintain and improve it #Guildchat #edtech
2:50 PM	technkl	A7 responsive design should start with mobile design though #guildchat
2:50 PM	urbie	@visualrinse #guildchat AppSmashing is the key. Best if used by people that don’t have all the answers so authenticity comes through. 2/2
2:50 PM	LnDDave	RT @visualrinse: a7) Mobile design is a strategy, a mindset/school of thought put to practice. Responsive design is a tactic, a tool. #guil…
2:50 PM	willconstantine	Q7) responsive is only across devices, mobile design is the overall structure and experience #GuildChat
2:51 PM	JD_Dillon	A7) Responsive = considering all devices; Mobile = a moving user (phone, tablet, watch, etc.) #guildchat https://t.co/g2EFxFSSxA
2:51 PM	AjayPangarkar	a7) mobile design must be responsive, had a situation an hour ago with these 2 issues #guildchat
2:51 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7) Are responsive design and mobile design the same thing? Why or why not? #GuildChat
2:51 PM	technkl	RT @AjayPangarkar: a7) mobile design must be responsive, had a situation an hour ago with these 2 issues #guildchat
2:51 PM	visualrinse	a7) They are not the same thing because a well designed responsive experience also works on desktop. #guildchat
2:52 PM	willconstantine	Q7) Design is more strategic in the overall solution. Responsive is part of the design of that solution. #GuildChat
2:52 PM	LnDDave	RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Responsive = considering all devices; Mobile = a moving user (phone, tablet, watch, etc.) #guildchat https://t.co/g2EFx…
2:52 PM	technkl	Question: is a branching scenario responsive learning? hehe #guildchat
2:52 PM	JD_Dillon	Answered … :-) #guildchat https://t.co/MUOW42EXaY
2:52 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: Q7) Are responsive design and mobile design the same thing? Why or why not? #GuildChat
2:53 PM	urbie	#guildchat A6 Why should people we support depend on 3rd parties for their performance support? What does that say about how we view them?
2:53 PM	visualrinse	RT @JD_Dillon: A7) Responsive = considering all devices; Mobile = a moving user (phone, tablet, watch, etc.) #guildchat https://t.co/g2EFx…
2:53 PM	AmyFranko	@technkl Yes, definitely have experienced that. :-) #guildchat
2:53 PM	technkl	@visualrinse @ajaypangarkar still must be responsive within that phone, just in iPhone now think of all screen sizes #guildchat
2:53 PM	technkl	@visualrinse @ajaypangarkar maybe not using responsive design as in web design but it is responsive #guildchat
2:53 PM	urbie	#guildchat A7 Dunno. Is responsive design coding content so it fits on any screen? Is mobile design more about the experience or a schema?
2:54 PM	AjayPangarkar	@technkl @visualrinse @AjayPangarkar agreed, but impressive how many sites not mobile responsive #ipad #guildchat
2:54 PM	pmcds	@visualrinse A6 Looks like there are more interpretations of “performance support” than there are of “learning”! #Guildchat #edtech
2:54 PM	technkl	@visualrinse @ajaypangarkar not really, you can’t missuse a term #guildchat
2:54 PM	Quinnovator	RT @visualrinse: a7) They are not the same thing because a well designed responsive experience also works on desktop. #guildchat < winner
2:55 PM	eLearningGuild	Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat
2:55 PM	AmyFranko	A7) I see responsive design being multi-platform, agree w/ @willconstantine it’s part of the overall design consideration. #guildchat
2:55 PM	LnDDave	RT @Quinnovator: RT @visualrinse: a7) They are not the same thing because a well designed responsive experience also works on desktop. #gui…
2:55 PM	technkl	@visualrinse @ajaypangarkar a responsive exp is a responsive exp, responsive web design doesn’t have a lock on that term #guildchat
2:55 PM	urbie	#guildchat A7 Who does responsive design serve/benefit? The developer or the consumer?
2:56 PM	eLearningGuild	Thanks to our guest @visualrinse for joining #GuildChat today. Be sure to check out his new book: http://t.co/J3tejxNOTn
2:56 PM	AjayPangarkar	wrap) yup, glad I am not a designer of mobile learning or apps :) #guildchat
2:56 PM	technkl	@visualrinse @ajaypangarkar yes but we aren’t discussion RWD, we’re discussing responsive design which isn’t the same thing to me #guildchat
2:56 PM	technkl	@visualrinse @ajaypangarkar it broadens it a bit #guildchat
2:56 PM	byod_news	visualrinse A6 Looks like there are more interpretations of “performance support” than there are of “learning”! #Guildchat #edtech
2:56 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat
2:56 PM	urbie	#guildchat A7 I see it this way: a desktop/laptop is an impersonal device. Tablets, phones, watches much more personal, intimate. 1/2
2:56 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Thanks to our guest @visualrinse for joining #GuildChat today. Be sure to check out his new book: http://t.co/J3tejxNOTn
2:56 PM	pmcds	@LearningGuild @visualrinse A7 Not the same, because responsive design doesn’t just relate to mobile learning. #Guildchat #edtech
2:57 PM	technkl	@visualrinse @ajaypangarkar very familiar with media queries :-) know how to use them been doing them custom in WP lately #guildchat
2:57 PM	urbie	#guildchat A7 I’d like my device/app to conform itself to me as a person/learner.
2:57 PM	eLearningGuild	What other aspects of #mLearning would you like to see #GuildChat explore in future chats?
2:57 PM	urbie	RT @pmcds: @LearningGuild @visualrinse A7 Not the same, because responsive design doesn’t just relate to mobile learning. #Guildchat #edtech
2:57 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Thanks to our guest @visualrinse for joining #GuildChat today. Be sure to check out his new book: http://t.co/J3tejxNOTn
2:58 PM	urbie	RT @lisaMinogueW: @LnDDave – go as far as saying performance support, LCG content on the fly, communities & videos/podcasts before e-learni…
2:58 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: What other aspects of #mLearning would you like to see #GuildChat explore in future chats?
2:58 PM	visualrinse	Thanks to @elearningguild for a fun #guildchat today.
2:58 PM	eLearningGuild	Explore the world of mobile design at #mLearnCon this June in Austin – Register now and save $100 http://t.co/Pu1DEAT4Ft #GuildChat
2:58 PM	JD_Dillon	Mobile design cannot be avoided! Stay informed, even if you don’t support a mobile audience! #guildchat https://t.co/RGxuU8kyTD
2:58 PM	floatlearning	RT @eLearningGuild: Thanks to our guest @visualrinse for joining #GuildChat today. Be sure to check out his new book: http://t.co/J3tejxNOTn
2:58 PM	willconstantine	Mobile should be selfish to the user #GuildChat
2:59 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Explore the world of mobile design at #mLearnCon this June in Austin – Register now and save $100 http://t.co/Pu1DEAT4F…
2:59 PM	eLearningGuild	Our topic for next week is Serious Games and Gamification. Be sure to add #GuildChat to your calendar each week!
2:59 PM	JD_Dillon	Would be interesting to see specific mobile ideas/applications analyzed/discussed #guildchat https://t.co/aVbmw1JLi0
2:59 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Explore the world of mobile design at #mLearnCon this June in Austin – Register now and save $100 http://t.co/Pu1DEAT4F…
2:59 PM	pmcds	@eLearningGuild Final thoughts? #Bootstrap everything! #Guildchat #edtech #mlearning
2:59 PM	technkl	When will mLearning stop begin mLearning? Can’t it be mobile something else? @LnDDave you know… all the <fillin>Learning #guildchat
2:59 PM	willconstantine	Have a great weekend everyone! #GuildChat
2:59 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Our topic for next week is Serious Games and Gamification. Be sure to add #GuildChat to your calendar each week!
2:59 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: What other aspects of #mLearning would you like to see #GuildChat explore in future chats?
2:59 PM	LearnovateSA	RT @eLearningGuild: Time is drawing short. Any final thoughts you’d like to share about today’s topic? #GuildChat
2:59 PM	JD_Dillon	Considerations for particular device categories (the watch convo is unavoidable as of today) … #guildchat https://t.co/aVbmw1JLi0
2:59 PM	urbie	RT @eLearningGuild: Thanks to our guest @visualrinse for joining #GuildChat today. Be sure to check out his new book: http://t.co/J3tejxNOTn
3:00 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @eLearningGuild: Explore the world of mobile design at #mLearnCon this June in Austin – Register now and save $100 http://t.co/Pu1DEAT4F…
3:00 PM	AmyFranko	@eLearningGuild #GuildChat Would love to talk more on results or impact of mobile learning we’re seeing in companies, non-profits.
3:00 PM	JD_Dillon	RT @eLearningGuild: Our topic for next week is Serious Games and Gamification. Be sure to add #GuildChat to your calendar each week!
3:00 PM	LnDDave	RT @eLearningGuild: Our topic for next week is Serious Games and Gamification. Be sure to add #GuildChat to your calendar each week!
3:00 PM	AjayPangarkar	Read my 2015 TI Editors’ Award nomin art. “Business Leader’s Bottom Line: Aligning Learning w/Org Needs” http://t.co/KSSXqCmBov #guildchat
3:00 PM	questionforall	RT @technkl: When will mLearning stop begin mLearning? Can’t it be mobile something else? @LnDDave you know… all the <fillin>Learning #gu…
3:00 PM	AmyFranko	RT @eLearningGuild: Our topic for next week is Serious Games and Gamification. Be sure to add #GuildChat to your calendar each week!
3:00 PM	JD_Dillon	Thanks for a fun #GuildChat everyone! JD in Orlando – beginning to prep for #ATD2015. Cya there!?! :-)
3:01 PM	willconstantine	RT @eLearningGuild: Our topic for next week is Serious Games and Gamification. Be sure to add #GuildChat to your calendar each week!
3:01 PM	lucato_m	RT @eLearningGuild: Our topic for next week is Serious Games and Gamification. Be sure to add #GuildChat to your calendar each week!
3:01 PM	pmcds	@technkl @LnDDave Same could be asked of #digitalliteracy – isn’t the “digital” part becoming a given element of literacy? #guildchat
3:01 PM	urbie	#guildchat One thing about responsive/mobile as devices get smaller more personal.. How do kids use them? We need new/young eyes on this.
3:01 PM	eLearningGuild	Thanks for joining #GuildChat everyone. We’ll see you next week. Look for a transcript of today’s chat soon!

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